Chris, I would be impossible to back with statistics, but in the history of OFBiz and there are many downloads that ended up in the delete bucket because they never reached your AHA moment.
Ian and I are trying to change the Eh! into Ahaaaaaa Kind regards, Andrew Ballantine. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2007 09:44 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OFBiz/opentaps as a small business accounting package? Ian, While I certainly enjoy the analogies, who are you ultimately suggesting create these lowest common denominator (LCD) documents? As has already been mentioned, once you pass that "aha" moment in OFBiz, it's difficult to understand why the engineering documentation didn't make sense the first time around. 3D vector calculus, as you put it, seems so elementary obvious at that point that it's difficult to convey it in simpler terms; even though you remember it not being obvious when you started. I don't think it's very time/quality productive for someone who's passed that "aha" moment to produce this documentation; at least not without the aid of an "uninitiated". If you'd like to be that test subject, I'm sure there are a mess of people, including myself, that would be willing to help explain things to you as you make your way through the concepts, documenting as you go. But the POV of the documentation cannot be from someone who's already gotten the bird off the ground, because they're not really sure which button they pressed to make it all seem second nature. --- Ian McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > > I don't get the proposition that there are 100 > different pilot roles. > > There are many 1,000s of different destinations. > Maybe more than a > dozen different pilot roles (commercial, fighter, > bomber, spotter, > etc.). But but there IS a lowest common denominator. > They all fly > planes. They all start off on fixed wing, single > engine props. They all > need to understand basic navigation, aerodynamics, > flight-engineering etc. > > But it is very basic. The need to understand lift, > drag, how to > calculate take off velocities etc. But I doubt if > they start of with 3D > vector calculus or need to know what a Reynold's > number is. > > So why can't the target be whatever denominators are > common to all pilots? > > How to find the door handle and the start button > would be top of my > list. If they can't find those then they ain't never > gonna fly. > > Ian > > > > > David E. Jones wrote: > > > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:25 AM, Ian McNulty wrote: > > > >> David, > >> > >> I can see where you're coming from on this. This > project is better > >> documented than anything else I've seen in the > field.You yourself > >> have produced a truly awesome amount of > documentation. I don't know > >> where you find the time. All are extremely well > written, very clear, > >> very well laid out. A model of their kind. (No > I'm not sucking up - I > >> mean it :) So what could possibly be the problem. > >> > >> I found the Introduction Videos and Diagrams page > you link to here a > >> couple of days ago myself. > >> > >> It was whilst working through these videos that > the light bulb went off. > >> > >> What you're talking us through is a diagram of > the wiring harness of > >> a jumbo jet. > >> > >> Essential for the engineers who need to service > it. > >> > >> Absolutely the last kind of map a pilot wants to > find on his lap. > >> > >> Know what I mean? > > > > Uh, yeah, that's because it is meant to cover the > framework, not the > > applications. The two are very different, change > very differently, > > need to be understood by different people in > different ways, etc. My > > current estimate is that to produce something > adequate for a "pilot", > > given that there are about 100 different "pilot" > roles in OFBiz, would > > require many times the effort to produce that the > framework videos > > with their diagrams, reference materials, > transcriptions, etc. Right > > now I don't have the $500k to get into that... and > the $40k already > > spent on the documents which are now PDF-dumped > into the > > docs.ofbiz.org site was clearly inadequate, > especially as it is mostly > > reference materials (which is why you won't find > how-to stuff in the > > reference guides, they are references after all, > just for reference > > purposes). The Application Overview for Users is > probably more of what > > you're looking for, though that section only > represents maybe 3-5% of > > what is in OFBiz right now. > > > > Of course, that's assuming such documents could > even be written in a > > way that is close to generally useful. How do I > use it? Well, that > > depends on what you want to do... and > unfortunately across a few > > different industries that list grows into hundreds > of thousands of > > activities... > > > > So, that's the big question with any document: who > is the target > > audience? The more specific the answer, the better > the document will > > address their needs. But who is the target > audience for OFBiz? ... ? > > > > -David > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ > mcnultyMEDIA > 60 Birkdale Gardens > Durham > DH1 2UL > > t: +44 (0)191 384 4736 > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > w: www.mcnultymedia.co.uk > ============================================================================ ================== > This communication is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s) named above and is > confidential. Any form of distribution, copying, > discussion or use of this communication, its > contents, or any information contained herein > without prior consent is strictly prohibited. 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