not proprietary but more to fit a look and feel of yahoo
so to reduce the learning curve for those store owners.
Since I use widgets, it makes it easier, as far as I am concern than FTL's.
Also change the menu entry point so it has more business logic to the
processes.

Also remember I started this back in 2006 and lot has changed in ofbiz.
I really like the include function in the controller

I would say that 90% of the UI is still ofbiz


[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following on 10/17/2007 5:26 PM:
> BJ
> 
> Are these proprietary?  Seems a waste to re-invent the wheel when something
> really close to what you want may already exist.
> 
> Skip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: GUI editors for ftl
> 
> 
> First I agree with you.
> second I accomplish this buy having my own modules that I make my own
> screens.
> 
> I have been thinking of asking to add Class field for each entry in a
> entity. But I have not given much thought to this process yet.
> 
> then by use of a CSS you hide or relocated any field you want.
> 
> However there is not "one way" a screen should done.
> so the implementations we now have are generic and suppose to be
> modified by the consultant, in there release to the client.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following on 10/17/2007 3:14 PM:
>> Thanks to both BJ and Adrian for the input.  The dynamically produced
>> screens are not suitable in my view.  No eye has been given to layout,
>> usability, and context making the users live harder than it needs to be.
> A
>> prime example is the Payments screen in the Accounting module.  Because
> this
>> is so generic, there are 14 fields where there needs to be 5 (or six if
> you
>> are dealing with foreign currencies) for the common payment tasks.
>>
>> That is why I want to replace these so I don't have to spend hours
> training
>> my customers' employees every time they hire a new one.  In other words,
>> these dynamically generated screens are the problem, not the solution.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:38 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: GUI editors for ftl
>>
>>
>> Ftl's are tied to the bsh files in ofbiz.'
>> from the freemaker site
>> http://freemarker.org/editors.html
>> but more importantly most displays are dynamically produced from the
>> entities.
>> In otherwords the Field are not defined in the editor but produced when
>> the entity is read.
>> So the editor would have be entity aware and some form of CSS would have
>> to be used to give div classes to each field.
>>
>> there are some Ftls and some widgets the build on other ftls and widgets
>> to create complex pages.
>>
>> I am not sure there is any editor that will allow all that.
>>
>> there has been some talk in the content module, but nothing definite,
>> like above.
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following on 10/17/2007 2:26 PM:
>>> I have Netbeans for Java and XUI as well as JBuilder for Java and
>>> Dreamweaver for HTML, etc.
>>>
>>> What do you guys use for new FTL devleopment?  Is there a GUI editor to
>> make
>>> the screen layout easier?
>>>
>>> I am passionate about attractive and intuitive UIs and a GUI editor makes
>> it
>>> all easier.
>>>
>>> Any tools and tricks to make life easier?
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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