Yes, that was one thing I was going to comment on in response to Jacopo's initial write-up.
The granularity on these should probably stay at a high level so the page doesn't get too cluttered and the discussion related to it can center more on objectives related to direction and priority rather than on how to do specific things or resolve little details.
Also, after a brainstorming period for a bit we should probably have an off-shoot discussion about picking 3-4 top priorities. That would change frequently, but would help us all establish a more specific short-term direction.
-David On Oct 26, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
I'm wondering if we're going to carried away with a christmas list of things people want improved in the project? I think we need to keep this list high level for major new features for the project, jira is still the best place for specific improvements. Scott On 27/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Gads, told you I was dumb. I just had to log in. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:21 PM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz You might need to create an account to post comments, avoids spam. Scott On 27/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I know, I'm dumb. I can't figure out how to post on this page. Anyway,addme in as someone willing to help with accounting. I would also like toadda new topic, enhanced accounts receivable (billing accounts). I amworkingon that now and will submit it when finished. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: Defining and implementing a short-medium term plan for OFBiz Yeah, that sounds a bit scary to me too ;-) The persons that want to express their interest but cannot help withdesign/development then should add their name to the "People interested" list only. The line "People willing to help" is really for the ones that will actively participate to the development... and it would really helpto have a vague idea of the amount of time that they would like to contribute.My fear is that we end up with a huge wishlist and zero human resourcesto work on it... it would be just a waste of time.However I've tried to make less scary that page, trying to explain themeaning of that line and asking for the approx estimate per week ormonth; I've also remove the text from the tasks (it is now in the pagedescription only). Do you think it is enough? Jacopo Scott Gray wrote:Hi JacopoThat page looks great, my only concern is that "approx hours per week"mightscare some people off by making them feel they have to make a commitmentrather than just show interest? Scott On 26/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi to all, I'm interested to contribute to those taks: Complete the support for VAT (Value-Added-Tax) Enhance the integration with eBay Enhance the integration with Google ProductWhy don't add also a new task to migrate the screen-widget styles tothenew styles of ftl screens.My problem is that I cannot say how much time I can reserve to thosetaskand when I can do it.Sorry, can I update the page http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAw in confluencebymyself or I have not the access ? Thanks in advance MarcoAs you all know, the long term goal of the OFBiz project is to build a complete, features set rich, universal and configurable "enterpriseautomation software" (ERP, CRM, CMMS, MRP etc.). OFBiz is one of the few applications of this type developed by a community, rather than one corporation.Even if the final long term goal is clear and well-defined ("buildingauniversal enterprise automation software"), the short and medium termtasks to accomplish it are not.This is of course a consequence of the nature of the project: it is a community driven project that tends to lead a life of its own and thisis great and amazing.However it is probably time to try together to canalize the power oftheOFBiz community in order to reach our final goal more quickly and efficiently. In my opinion, the definition of a short/medium term plan (wishlist/feature plan) could help encourage contributions and efficiently convey the community resources.It is not an attempt at top-down management, but rather a means toenhance collaboration and communication in the OFBiz community. Proposed steps (draft): 1) areas of interest: definition of the areas of interest for thecommunity: "what do you think the community members have to implementtomake OFBiz the best enterprise automation software in the World?"; thetasks should not be huge tasks because they should be doable by volunteers in the community 2) resources: who is willing to contribute to which task and the approximate amount of hours per week 3) for the tasks with enough resources and attention: define thedetails, subtasks (in Jira?), roles, estimated completion dates; at least one committer should probably be part of each task, so that thework will be committed more rapidlyTo give you an idea of a way to implement #1 and #2, I've set up adraftof a page with a wishlist that I've recently collected (from private/public messages): http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/JAwof course this is only a first step, the list will change and growduring the discussion. Please, post your comments and ideas here (and as comments to theabovepage), I really think this could be a great opportunity for the community to grow and for new developers to become committers! Jacopo
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