ok, i will put the extra constraint in the lead find and contact find
screens...

thanks for your help,

regards,
Hans


On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 23:50 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> 
> It doesn't sound like the new field or the from/thru date are needed.  
> Let me try to clarify what I wrote before about the explicit exclusion  
> thing (ie when looking for leads include leads but exclude all of  
> those who are also contacts, so that contacts don't show up with the  
> leads).
> 
> You have a one-way progression among these roles, so you can define  
> rules for viewing or reporting on them like:
> 
> 1. if a party is in the contact role and the lead role include them on  
> the contact list, but not on the lead list
> 
> In other words, just define a "lead" as only a lead and not a contact,  
> ie the current role but not the "next" role, so that you only look at  
> each in the furthest role down the line.
> 
> Any new data structures or whatever sound like they would be redundant  
> and possibly confusing.
> 
> Looking at this particular situation realistically: when a party move  
> from a lead to a contact, they ARE still a lead, but now they are also  
> a contact. However, because they are a contact there is no reason to  
> do anything with them to treat them as you would other leads.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> 
> > Ok some more info.
> >
> > In the SFA application i want to be sure a party is only listed in
> > either lead or contact or account and not in two lists. This is
> > independent of any relation
> >
> > If i create party as a lead then i use this in the partyrelationship
> > entity to have a related partyGroup record for the company name.
> > When i covert the lead to contact I set the enddate on this  
> > relationship
> > to keep the history and create a new one for the role 'contact';
> > Before that i add the role of 'contact' to this party to indicate the
> > conversion. I can however not delete the 'lead' role because it is  
> > used
> > in partyrelationship.
> >
> > having a new field on party is a very simple solution and i can change
> > the partyFind service with no effort so one can search on this field.
> >
> > we can also consider to add a 'from/thru' date to the partyrole entity
> > however that is a pretty big change to the system because this  
> > entity is
> > used in many places.....
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:59 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't really like the idea of "primary role", as roles don't really
> >> work that way.
> >>
> >> If you don't want a party showing up on a list of leads and contacts,
> >> then they shouldn't have both the lead and contact roles...
> >>
> >> Could you be more specific about what you're trying to do here?
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why not make it a party relationship? A party is related to this
> >>> party/company/etc as a lead/contact/account/etc.
> >>>
> >>> -Adrian
> >>>
> >>> --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Hans Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> From: Hans Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Subject: primary Role on party
> >>> To: "user" <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 8:08 PM
> >>>
> >>> In the SFA application I need the definition of a 'primary roleType'
> >>> to
> >>> identify where a party is listed...either in leads, contacts or
> >>> accounts...
> >>>
> >>> Anybody any objections when i add this field to the Party entity?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> 

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