Tim, I have been told over and over not to create a Jira for Discussion
but to use the Mailing list.

has this policy changed?

Tim Ruppert sent the following on 4/21/2009 6:56 AM:
> Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it.  You'll have lots 
> of people there to comment on it I'm sure.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> 
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
> 
> ----- "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim:
>> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>>
>> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
>> process?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>> derivative software packages.  There are some benefits, but many
>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those.  I personally like the idea of
>> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
>> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
>> be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> Add-on
>>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
>> of
>>>> ofbiz,
>>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in
>> ofbiz
>>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
>> domain
>>>> driven
>>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
>> that
>>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> softwares, then
>>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> chosen
>>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
>> trunk
>>>> in
>>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
>> just
>>>> cannot.)
>>>>
>>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
>> up
>>>> with a
>>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
>> point
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> (86)
>>>> 135 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
>> was
>>>>>       
>>>> working
>>>>     
>>>>> on this.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>>         
>>>> component
>>>>     
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>   * ant -help and    * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>>   * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
>> for
>>>>>>         
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>     
>>>>>>   * It's not yet finished
>>>>>>   * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option
>> to
>>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>>       **
>>>>>>         
>>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>>     
>>>>>>       ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
>> above
>>>>>>         
>>>> can
>>>>     
>>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
>> components
>>>>>>>           
>>>> in
>>>>     
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance,
>> when
>>>>>>>           
>>>> we
>>>>     
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
>> help
>>>>>>>           
>>>> in
>>>>     
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>>           
>>>> structure
>>>>     
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  hi Ruth,
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
>> install/uninstall
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> new
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> helpful to
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> (86) 135
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>> if a
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
>> basic
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>> file
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>> allow
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> directory.
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> sub-directories
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> resources for
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> number of
>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> custom
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> search of
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> tools
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
>> framework
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> - or
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
>> webtool
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> or
>>>>     
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>         
>>>
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