Showing default search results is one thing. Enhancing (combining) search posibilities is another. It is al about clicks.....
Why not have search screens combined (by default) so that users experience an enhanced ease of use. E.g. in party (account, employee, etc) combine the search on party name (first name and/or last name) with details from contact mechs (e.g. country or postal code) beside showing advanced search possibilities. And as far as SugarCRM goes: they have found a nack to deliver what customers want, which among others is an ease of use. So, why not steal with pride and improve. Regards, Pierre PS I did not actually intend to promote theft. E.g in one screen 2009/10/26 Scott Gray <[email protected]> > BTW I think the absolute best thing we could do to improve search usability > is to implement saved searches without a doubt. > > Regards > Scott > > > On 26/10/2009, at 10:37 PM, Scott Gray wrote: > > I was just trying to point out that it's usefulness decreases >> exponentially as the number of pages in the result set increases (i.e. the >> likelihood that you will find what you are looking for on the first page). >> IMO it only really makes sense when the list is ordered by the newest >> record first such as orders, tasks, emails, etc. >> >> I personally don't really care either way, I just feel that the effort >> required to make it configurable outweighs the benefits. If the list should >> show results then just show them and if it shouldn't then don't, why bother >> with all the extra work of making it configurable just because the >> developers disagree on which is the best approach. >> >> BTW, SugarCRM is one of many popular CRM suites out there and I don't >> think that just because they do something a certain way makes that approach >> the best one :-) >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> HotWax Media >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >> >> On 26/10/2009, at 9:34 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >> Scott, >>> >>> I did not find enough time for that. This idea cames to me after a short >>> test of SugarCRM last version. >>> I think we could show results by default in SFA at least. There should >>> not be too much results, and with the new length parameter Bruno is working >>> on, this should improve user experience. >>> This because it seems that some decision-makers began to look at OFBiz >>> from the CRM/SFA perspective. >>> We should take care of their expericen, most of the time they decide of >>> our future... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> >>> >>>> From: "Scott Gray" <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Could you provide an example search form where this might be useful? >>>>> Perhaps talking about specific forms might be more helpful. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I will try tomorrow to explain why, I must admit I have not yet >>>> considered the how >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> I have no problem with OFBiz being set one way or the other but making >>>>> it configurable seems like a lot for little return. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> On 13/10/2009, at 10:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Not only people evaluating OFBiz, but also people dealing with small >>>>>> numbers. Maybe this should not be applied to all searches, though. >>>>>> Remember, OFBiz was set this way not so long ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Scott Gray" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -1, that sounds like a lot of work and additional complexity and for >>>>>>> what? So that people evaluating OFBiz don't have to click on a search >>>>>>> button in order to do a search? I'm sorry but it really makes no >>>>>>> sense >>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13/10/2009, at 9:51 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also in the case of searching by default, the search fields should >>>>>>>> be visible (it's no obvious as it's only a string in the screenlet >>>>>>>> title) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OOTB, we decided to not do searches by default when a page >>>>>>>>> containing one is opened (I was for this decision) >>>>>>>>> I wonder if we should not parametrize this in the DB and let it >>>>>>>>> available in the "My Portal" Préférences ? >>>>>>>>> Then we could set it to yes by default and avoid people evaluating >>>>>>>>> OFBiz to clic on search button each time they open a such page. >>>>>>>>> We could also have an URL going to the preferences in each search >>>>>>>>> to allow a quick change if needed >>>>>>>>> This is not related to lookup dialog boxes but only searches in >>>>>>>>> plain pages. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
