Hi Jacques,

I agree too. Showing all contact mech details in a hover would enhance user
experience. But is all about real estate. If room is available I would like
to see some contact mech details on the same line as the name of the contact
(eg. phone number and/or email address).

Regards,

Pierre

2009/10/26 Jacques Le Roux <[email protected]>

> For instance I found the "I" (Information) icon a good idea in SugarCRM.
> It only shows contact's contact mechs details on an hover over the icon,
> but it's convenient.
> It's all about improving users experience, they really like it (don't you ?
> ;o)
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]>
>
> Showing default search results is one thing. Enhancing (combining) search
> posibilities is another. It is al about clicks.....
>
> Why not have search screens combined (by default) so that users experience
> an enhanced ease of use. E.g. in party (account, employee, etc) combine the
> search on party name (first name and/or last name) with details from
> contact
> mechs (e.g. country or postal code) beside showing advanced search
> possibilities.
>
> And as far as SugarCRM goes: they have found a nack to deliver what
> customers want, which among others is an ease of use. So, why not steal
> with
> pride and improve.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> PS I did not actually intend to promote theft.
>
> E.g in one screen
> 2009/10/26 Scott Gray <[email protected]>
>
>  BTW I think the absolute best thing we could do to improve search
>> usability
>> is to implement saved searches without a doubt.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 26/10/2009, at 10:37 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>
>>  I was just trying to point out that it's usefulness decreases
>>
>>> exponentially as the number of pages in the result set increases (i.e.
>>> the
>>> likelihood that you will find what you are looking for on the first
>>> page).
>>>  IMO it only really makes sense when the list is ordered by the newest
>>> record first such as orders, tasks, emails, etc.
>>>
>>> I personally don't really care either way, I just feel that the effort
>>> required to make it configurable outweighs the benefits.  If the list
>>> should
>>> show results then just show them and if it shouldn't then don't, why
>>> bother
>>> with all the extra work of making it configurable just because the
>>> developers disagree on which is the best approach.
>>>
>>> BTW, SugarCRM is one of many popular CRM suites out there and I don't
>>> think that just because they do something a certain way makes that
>>> approach
>>> the best one :-)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> On 26/10/2009, at 9:34 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>  Scott,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did not find enough time for that. This idea cames to me after a short
>>>> test of SugarCRM last version.
>>>> I think we could show results by default in SFA at least. There should
>>>> not be too much results, and with the new length parameter Bruno is
>>>> working
>>>> on, this should improve user experience.
>>>> This because it seems that some decision-makers began to look at OFBiz
>>>> from the CRM/SFA perspective.
>>>> We should take care of their expericen, most of the time they decide of
>>>> our future...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>  From: "Scott Gray" <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Could you provide an example search form where this might be useful?
>>>>>> Perhaps talking about specific forms might be more helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I will try tomorrow to explain why, I must admit I have not yet
>>>>> considered the how
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>  I have no problem with OFBiz being set one way or the other but making
>>>>>
>>>>>>  it configurable seems like a lot for little return.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/10/2009, at 10:37 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Not only people evaluating OFBiz, but also people dealing with small
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  numbers. Maybe this should not be applied to all searches, though.
>>>>>>> Remember, OFBiz was set this way not so long ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Scott Gray" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -1, that sounds like a lot of work and additional complexity and
>>>>>>>>  for
>>>>>>>>  what? So that people evaluating OFBiz don't have to click on a
>>>>>>>>  search
>>>>>>>>  button in order to do a search?  I'm sorry but it really  makes no
>>>>>>>>  sense
>>>>>>>> to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/10/2009, at 9:51 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Also in the case of searching by default, the search fields  should
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  be visible (it's no obvious as it's only a string in the screenlet
>>>>>>>>>  title)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OOTB, we decided to not do searches by default when a page
>>>>>>>>>> containing one is opened (I was for this decision)
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if we should not parametrize this in the DB and let it
>>>>>>>>>> available in the "My Portal" Préférences ?
>>>>>>>>>> Then we could set it to yes by default and avoid people
>>>>>>>>>>  evaluating
>>>>>>>>>>  OFBiz to clic on search button each time they open a such page.
>>>>>>>>>> We could also have an URL going to the preferences in each  search
>>>>>>>>>>  to allow a quick change if needed
>>>>>>>>>> This is not related to lookup dialog boxes but only searches in
>>>>>>>>>> plain pages.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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