OFBiz already has a core system (like a dos or linux core), it needs a Windows/GNU(web GUI), perhaps it's time to consider to introduce a new party who is an expert on this. Please don't confuse the GUI with CSS, it's on dialog, window, menu, list, form and etc.
Just my 2 cents, Shi Jinghai/Beijing Langhua Ltd. PS: please rename the GUI in framework to another name. 在 2009-11-10二的 07:17 -0700，Brett Palmer写道： > Here are the notes that I took during the ApacheCon 2009 User Round Table. > The conference was a success but I believe was less attended than normal. > I've been to about 6 ofbiz conferences and this one was the least attended > by ofbiz users than others. I attribute this to the current economic > situation rather than anything else. > > Interestingly, a lot of the comments during the round table were similar to > ones that we have had in the past. The project continues to make progress > but from outsiders it is difficult to measure as some of the new features > takes months to see in the end product. > > There were six people in attendance at the round table. A few had to leave > early to catch planes in the afternoon. Of those that attended the round > table two were speakers (myself and Ruth). Three of the attendees were > service providers trying to better understand the direction of ofbiz and one > was a new user that was active in other Apache projects and wanted to know > more about ofbiz. > > > Here are the key comments: > > * Everyone was very interested in the new project that Dave introduced a > couple of weeks ago about a specialized application for small business. They > wanted to know a lot more about this project and what it would include. > There was a lot of excitement about the proposal. I didn't have a lot of > details to share so I told them to watch the mailing list for more details > on the subject. > > * Most common complaint. The UI for the out of the box ecommerce > application. The general feedback was that from a technical perspective > people like ofbiz but it was difficult to convince key business people that > ofbiz was right for their organization because of the lacking "sizzle" in > the default application. Non-technical people have a hard time determining > how difficult it is to customize the UI and in a quick review will opt for a > better looking application because that is all they can really evaluate. > The general thought was that the lack of a very nice front end was slowing > the adoption for ofbiz > > * Another suggestion was around content management. The ofbiz CMS is not > fully complete with a UI and business logic. The question was asked if it > was possible to plugin other CSM packages the the Java Content Repository > (JCR). > > * There were some comments on OpenTaps and what it means to OFBiz. This is > always an interesting discussion and I tried to explain the licensing > problems with using OpenTaps. The one benefit people had about using > OpenTaps is that it has a full CRM application that people can use from the > start. OfBiz is more general and requires more customization. > > * SugarCRM and other similar applications are examples of very large user > communities because the application is a complete solution. It is difficult > to convince people to use ofbiz because there are pieces that are not > complete and require customization. The ability to customize is a benefit > for some users but a drawback for others and is a hindrance to wide spread > adoption. > > * Is it possible to break up the components more into separate installable > modules. For example, framework versus applications. We discussed how this > is currently done but the feedback was to make it easier for people to pick > and choose what components to install. > > * Any plans to integrate a complete rules engine into ofbiz > > * Version control for release branches. Are they plans to do more frequent > releases? The current download of the nightly build is misleading as user > think it is a stable release build but it is really just the nightly build > from the trunk. > > * It was stated that OFBiz is a unique apache project as it is focused on > business solutions where as most apache projects focus on a single technical > problem. How that technology is used in an application is generally > irrelevant. OFBiz is different in that it tries to provide a complete > solution for businesses and users. The feedback was that in the future it > would be nice to attract more end users to the ofbiz apache conference > rather than technical people that implement the solution. This was agreed > that if there were more complete applications that the user community would > grow and all people in the community would benefit. > > * Another strategy for OFBiz would be to define business best practices and > then implement those processes into the applications. This is a difficult > task as all businesses are unique but just as ofbiz adopted a common data > model there most be common business practices that would benefit all > businesses. > > * Improving the integration of the seleniumXml test framework with the > existing ofbiz test framework. Also more examples of tests using the OOTB > ofbiz applications would be desired. > > The above comments are notes that I took during the round table discussion. > They are not my own personal opinions but of those of the group. Please > feel free to comment on these ideas for the benefit of the community. > > Overall, the people attending the conference commented that they would like > OFBiz to continue to have these each year. They would like to see more > users attending the conference in the future. > > Thanks, > > > Brett
