Forgot to say, Facebook and iGoogle are the best samples of all :).

在 2009-11-11三的 09:13 +0800,Shi Jinghai写道:
> In the architectural level, JBoss Portal can be a good sample, the
> concepts are portal, page, window.
> http://www.jboss.org/jbossportal/
> or
> http://www.jboss.org/gatein
> 
> If you're interested in how a user configs his/her page, you can login
> our portal:
> http://sso.langhua.org/cas/login?service=http%3A%2F%2Flanghua.org%
> 2Fportal%2Fauth%2Fportal%2Fdefault%2FHome
> Username: anon
> Password: anon
> 
> 
> In window level, OpenCms is a good example, list, dialog and etc.
> http://demo.opencms.org/en/
> 
> If you're interested in how a user use it, you can login our cms
> workplace:
> http://sso.langhua.org/cas/login?service=http%3A%2F%2Fcms.langhua.org%
> 3A80%2Fopencms705%2Fopencms%2Fsystem%2Flogin%2Findex.html
> Username: anon
> Password: anon
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shi Jinghai/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> 
> 
> 
> 在 2009-11-10二的 19:02 -0500,Ruth Hoffman写道:
> > Hello Shi:
> > Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by "web GUI"? 
> > Could you give an example of another application suite that has a "web 
> > GUI" as you suggest?
> > Regards,
> > Ruth
> > 
> > Shi Jinghai wrote:
> > > OFBiz already has a core system (like a dos or linux core), it needs a
> > > Windows/GNU(web GUI), perhaps it's time to consider to introduce a new
> > > party who is an expert on this. Please don't confuse the GUI with CSS,
> > > it's on dialog, window, menu, list, form and etc.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents,
> > >
> > > Shi Jinghai/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
> > >
> > > PS: please rename the GUI in framework to another name.
> > >
> > > 在 2009-11-10二的 07:17 -0700,Brett Palmer写é“:
> > >   
> > >> Here are the notes that I took during the ApacheCon 2009 User Round 
> > >> Table.
> > >> The conference was a success but I believe was less attended than normal.
> > >> I've been to about 6 ofbiz conferences and this one was the least 
> > >> attended
> > >> by ofbiz users than others.  I attribute this to the current economic
> > >> situation rather than anything else.
> > >>
> > >>  Interestingly, a lot of the comments during the round table were 
> > >> similar to
> > >> ones that we have had in the past. The project continues to make progress
> > >> but from outsiders it is difficult to measure as some of the new features
> > >> takes months to see in the end product.
> > >>
> > >>  There were six people in attendance at the round table. A few had to 
> > >> leave
> > >> early to catch planes in the afternoon.  Of those that attended the round
> > >> table two were speakers (myself and Ruth). Three of the attendees were
> > >> service providers trying to better understand the direction of ofbiz and 
> > >> one
> > >> was a new user that was active in other Apache projects and wanted to 
> > >> know
> > >> more about ofbiz.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Here are the key comments:
> > >>
> > >>  * Everyone was very interested in the new project that Dave introduced a
> > >> couple of weeks ago about a specialized application for small business. 
> > >> They
> > >> wanted to know a lot more about this project and what it would include.
> > >> There was a lot of excitement about the proposal.  I didn't have a lot of
> > >> details to share so I told them to watch the mailing list for more 
> > >> details
> > >> on the subject.
> > >>
> > >>  * Most common complaint. The UI for the out of the box ecommerce
> > >> application. The general feedback was that from a technical perspective
> > >> people like ofbiz but it was difficult to convince key business people 
> > >> that
> > >> ofbiz was right for their organization because of the lacking "sizzle" in
> > >> the default application.   Non-technical people have a hard time 
> > >> determining
> > >> how difficult it is to customize the UI and in a quick review will opt 
> > >> for a
> > >> better looking application because that is all they can really evaluate.
> > >> The general thought was that the lack of a very nice front end was 
> > >> slowing
> > >> the adoption for ofbiz
> > >>
> > >>  * Another suggestion was around content management. The ofbiz CMS is not
> > >> fully complete with a UI and business logic. The question was asked if it
> > >> was possible to plugin other CSM packages the the Java Content Repository
> > >> (JCR).
> > >>
> > >>  * There were some comments on OpenTaps and what it means to OFBiz. This 
> > >> is
> > >> always an interesting discussion and I tried to explain the licensing
> > >> problems with using OpenTaps. The one benefit people had about using
> > >> OpenTaps is that it has a full CRM application that people can use from 
> > >> the
> > >> start.  OfBiz is more general and requires more customization.
> > >>
> > >>  * SugarCRM and other similar applications are examples of very large 
> > >> user
> > >> communities because the application is a complete solution.  It is 
> > >> difficult
> > >> to convince people to use ofbiz because there are pieces that are not
> > >> complete and require customization.  The ability to customize is a 
> > >> benefit
> > >> for some users but a drawback for others and is a hindrance to wide 
> > >> spread
> > >> adoption.
> > >>
> > >>  * Is it possible to break up the components more into separate 
> > >> installable
> > >> modules. For example, framework versus applications.  We discussed how 
> > >> this
> > >> is currently done but the feedback was to make it easier for people to 
> > >> pick
> > >> and choose what components to install.
> > >>
> > >>  * Any plans to integrate a complete rules engine into ofbiz
> > >>
> > >>  * Version control for release branches. Are they plans to do more 
> > >> frequent
> > >> releases?  The current download of the nightly build is misleading as 
> > >> user
> > >> think it is a stable release build but it is really just the nightly 
> > >> build
> > >> from the trunk.
> > >>
> > >>  * It was stated that OFBiz is a unique apache project as it is focused 
> > >> on
> > >> business solutions where as most apache projects focus on a single 
> > >> technical
> > >> problem.  How that technology is used in an application is generally
> > >> irrelevant.  OFBiz is different in that it tries to provide a complete
> > >> solution for businesses and users. The feedback was that in the future it
> > >> would be nice to attract more end users to the ofbiz apache conference
> > >> rather than technical people that implement the solution. This was agreed
> > >> that if there were more complete applications that the user community 
> > >> would
> > >> grow and all people in the community would benefit.
> > >>
> > >>  * Another strategy for OFBiz would be to define business best practices 
> > >> and
> > >> then implement those processes into the applications. This is a difficult
> > >> task as all businesses are unique but just as ofbiz adopted a common data
> > >> model there most be common business practices that would benefit all
> > >> businesses.
> > >>
> > >>  * Improving the integration of the seleniumXml test framework with the
> > >> existing ofbiz test framework. Also more examples of tests using the OOTB
> > >> ofbiz applications would be desired.
> > >>
> > >> The above comments are notes that I took during the round table 
> > >> discussion.
> > >> They are not my own personal opinions but of those of the group.  Please
> > >> feel free to comment on these ideas for the benefit of the community.
> > >>
> > >> Overall, the people attending the conference commented that they would 
> > >> like
> > >> OFBiz to continue to have these each year.  They would like to see more
> > >> users attending the conference in the future.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Brett
> > >>     
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> 

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