I partially agree with your ruth. before 4.0 was release I stopped the trunk and made my own. I worked at testing and stablialising. the problem was there was no way to feed this back to the community because the trunk had advance to the ponit my fixes would not work. Now we have branches. the idea is for those that want something bug free to test it and get the bugs out. it is stable only in that fact new code is not added to it. It is bug free only to the level that it is tested and bugs reported. the developers are not interested in testing. even in big corporations like Boeing and Microsoft Testing is a whole different department. I have been involved with both.
I believe what you wish is for a "finished" product. That will never be Ofbiz, IMHO. Your right in that this is a product for a Developer to take and make something of, not of a end user to take and use. Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:43 PM: > Hi Adrian: > > With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions > you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just > confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see > yourselves the way the rest of the world does. > > I think I've said enough. > > Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings. > > Regards, > Ruth > > Adrian Crum wrote: >> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release >> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to >> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created. >> >> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a >> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing >> in the release. >> >> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some >> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which >> has remained unchanged for years. >> >> I hope that helps. >> >> -Adrian >> >> Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about >>> bug fixes in Release 9.04? >>> Regards, >>> Ruth >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release >>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and >>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be >>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that >>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch >>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or >>>> any other conflicting priorities. >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month >>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Anil Patel >>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the >>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an >>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade >>>>>> strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> Anil Patel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ? >>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled >>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly >>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use. >>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT? >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Anil Patel >>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc >>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release >>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <bruno.bu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these >>>>>>>>> issue on >>>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 >>>>>>>>>> and maybe >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups >>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's >>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost >>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vijaywargiya.ash...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should >>>>>>>>>>> be taken >>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care >>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months. >>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please comment. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <d...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the >>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was >>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before >>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but >>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another >>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in >>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version >>>>>>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new >>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on >>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr >>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz >>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
