Hi BJ,
Actually I was suggesting this to Aayush.
I really believe this part could be an opportunity for more users to be
interested in OFBiz.
All the data model and related services are ready. We simply need to make more it
"standard".
We would then achieve 2 goals, showing that OFBiz is "easily"[1] able to mimic, say Sugar CRM, and attract more people who will then
discover all what OFBiz can offer under the hood!
It could be also an opportunity to do it with jQuery which is simply the best
when it comes to create a Fancy UI.
So my proposition to Aayush, or anyone interested in OFBiz, would be to create a new CRM component in special purpose. Based on SFA
and Marketing elements, mimicking Sugar CRM but enhancing it whit jQuery to really show to people that we can do better!
Thanks to Erwan (there was a quick free PDF offer during FIFA World Cup) I'm currently (slowly) reading
http://www.sitepoint.com/books/jquery1/ and I amazed how easy and clever jQuery syntax is. I believe that when the jQuery branch
will be merged in trunk a next step in OFBiz reputation will come because it will be far easier to use bells and whistles. It's only
UI but UI is what people 1st see... Morevoer I have a client interested and willing to contribute (in jQuery not CRM).
The only drawback with jQuery is to have to deal with many "repos" as it's a world in itself (lot of plugins...). We should also try
to keep the UI *consistent*, else it could be worse than anything else and with jQuery's world this is not easy...
Note this:
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2010/03/11/all-scripts-used-in-jquery-novice-to-ninja-are-now-free-to-download/
So OFBiz enthusiasts, I tried to put some cards on the table, it's up to you...
Jacques
[1] I put easily in quote because this is of course easier for someone with
experience with OFBiz than for a new comers
From: "BJ Freeman" <[email protected]>
I agree though I did this in SWT using the Eclipse UI format in 2006.
I have been thinking through how to leverage the portlets to make a CRM
interface.
but with everything else that about as far as it has gotten.
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/12/2010 4:01 AM:
I think OFBiz will be better if we had a better/more complete UI in the
SFA component. Even maybe a new more simple CRM component inspired by
Sugar CRM for instance...
We already discussed about this in more details in fall 2009...
Jacques
From: "BJ Freeman" <[email protected]>
Having been a successful instructor in the past, let me share some
insights.
1) each discipline will require X number of manhours to accomplish.
2)decent Knowledge can only be evaluated by someone proficient in the
discipline.
3)the brain usually only retains 10% of the knowledge it is exposed to
each time, so the more exposure the more retention.
4)building on a solid foundation of core operations of Discipline is
essential to accomplishing higher function of the discipline.
my dad gave me three rules for learning a new Discipline.
1)read everything there is about a Discipline if you don't understand
a word or concept stop till you have figured it out.
2)When you think you understand a concept, change the process and
predict the outcome.
3)Run the process. if the outcome is what you predicted you understand
the concept. If not go back to #1` you missed something.
your instructor(consultant) of OFBiz should understands the manhours
to accomplish the tasks you need to perform and should have set down a
Course of actions that you need to follow. The instructor should also
have a fair Idea of your proficiency and short comings.
Once you have the manhours required and you know your ability to
dedicate to those hours, will determine you success on completion.
Setting up the Project Manger in ofbiz will give you some realtime
experience and help you evaluate your goals and Ofbiz from a User
perspective, as well as your overall project.
Aayush sent the following on 8/11/2010 9:17 PM:
i am a student of engineering in computer science branch ....
i'v a decent knowledge of core java and servelet, JDBC and JSP ...
rite now m taking training under an employee of hot-wax media corp..
and im planning to make my major project in ofbiz itself ...
but m having a doubt that i wud be able to make sucessfull project on
this
or not ??
m not doubting OFBiz ...rather m challanging myself ...
i'v time of around an year ...i'v a group of 5 people and of which
only 2 of
us are taking training ...
but we wud be teaching the rest of them whatever is coming to us ...
rite now we'v understood how a request has to be traced ...so m able to
reach upto the desired code location ......but rite now we'r unable to
understand the services (business logics) ...we wud surely be working on
that ....we'v implemented the hello1, hello2 and hello3 applications
available on the tutorials available on net ....so now we know which
package
containes which files and what are their purpose ...
so what do u think wud be a good idea to proceed further in the learning
process of ofbiz
and what wud be a good idea to make a project on ?????
please rply sooon ......
