On 1/10/2010, at 8:20 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:

> not sure you read his responses.

I did.

> I can see your point and will try to work what he requirement are beyond the 
> scope of this  mailing list.

From the mailing list page in confluence: "The user list is intended for 
installation, deployment, custom development and usage related topics."
Essentially, if it is related to OFBiz then it is welcome here.

> that sound better.
> 
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> Scott Gray sent the following on 9/30/2010 11:50 AM:
>> I would suggest looking at the drop ship functionality that is available in 
>> OFBiz and customizing it for this situation.  The shopping cart has the 
>> ability to set a supplierPartyId per ship group and that can probably be 
>> leveraged in this situation.  What biletnikov is describing is really just 
>> drop shipments with the ability for the customer to decide the supplier 
>> rather than leaving the system to do it automatically.
>> 
>> But BJ please try and avoid spreading incorrect information, especially when 
>> it has the effect of turning people away from the mailing lists.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 1/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> 
>>> By all means Scott
>>> Provide him the answer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 9/30/2010 2:16 AM:
>>>> On 30/09/2010, at 9:38 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> anything beyond Out Of The Box is beyond this mailing list.
>>>> 
>>>> Huh? Since when is this the case?
>>>> This list is exactly where people should come when they want to discuss 
>>>> their business problems and how OFBiz could help solve them.
>>>> 
>>>>> I suggest you contact someone on the providers list available from the 
>>>>> front page of ofbiz to help you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> biletnikov sent the following on 9/30/2010 12:17 AM:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The lead time and inventory levels are not used.
>>>>>> We are not going to use PreferenceOrder  and Ratingtype, because we do 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> have preferable or not preferable suppliers. All of them are actual, and
>>>>>> different products can have own list of suppliers, but the customer 
>>>>>> wants to
>>>>>> select this supplier of the product before he place it into the shopping
>>>>>> cart. And I see that the customer selected SupplierProduct can not be
>>>>>> considered for the order (in OrderItem) in the current OFBiz data model.
>>>>>> We do not use E-commerce shop, we have own front-end solution, so it 
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> we are finding the way how to handle with product suppliers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could you suggest which way is the most easier to customize:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    - store the  Product<->    ProductSupplier   like one-to-one 
>>>>>> relation, if
>>>>>>    the product has 3 suppliers, it means we create 3 products and add the
>>>>>>    ProductSupplier for each product, if the OrderItem refers to 
>>>>>> productId we
>>>>>>    know which supplier we need
>>>>>>    - have the Product<->    ProductSupplier one-to-many  relation, but 
>>>>>> add
>>>>>>    supplierId to the OrderItem. Also, we need a UI possibility in OFBiz 
>>>>>> to edit
>>>>>>    order items and we should able to select a new supplier for the 
>>>>>> OrderItem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> we use OFBiz just as ERP, Ordering, Accounty, Party management system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:45 AM, BJ Freeman [via OFBiz]<
>>>>>> [email protected]<ml-node%[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> are you planning on  supplying the PreferenceOrder and Ratingtype to the
>>>>>>> customer.
>>>>>>> how about the lead time and inventory levels.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/ViewRelations?entityName=SupplierProduct
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so every productID can be related to Supplier product.
>>>>>>> this is done in the Catalog->product-supplier.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the one to many for supplier product exists
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/ViewRelations?entityName=Product
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The productID in OrderItem relates to many supplierproducts you enter.
>>>>>>> you can automatically pick the SupplierPreferenceOrder (main suppler) or
>>>>>>> SupplierRatingtype of that you add that will be the best supplier 
>>>>>>> Rating.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The selection, currently, of the supplier is done by
>>>>>>> SupplierPreferenceOrder. This is set up manually and customization is
>>>>>>> necessary to use SupplierRatingtype figure this out by the criteria you
>>>>>>> set from the data in SupplierProduct.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you put the info in the Product detail page they can select it before
>>>>>>> order. that is a customization.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you put in the Cart after the orders get more complicated unless you
>>>>>>> just want to show what ofbiz current logic selects for the supplier.
>>>>>>> this also is a customization.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> biletnikov sent the following on 9/29/2010 11:55 AM:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In our case, we sell products which are provided by different suppliers
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the customer has ability to select the most preferable supplier.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We see, that OFBiz data model allows to specify the suppliers for each
>>>>>>>> product (SupplierProduct), so a product can have many suppliers ( for
>>>>>>>> example, 3 SupplierProduct).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But, how to specify the product and the supplier that customer needs 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> order? A customer wants to see the supplier in the order.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Order entity has OrderItem entities, which relate to Product (via
>>>>>>>> productId) and nothing for the supplier.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The solution which we see, is to duplicate Product for each supplier 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> have   one - to - one relation  between Product and SupplierProduct, in
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> case we are able to determine the supplier by productId.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is it the best solution?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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