On 1/10/2010, at 8:51 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: > I agree with this. > However the response that I responded to was they were not using the ofbiz as > their ecommerce, but as ERP, which negated both our suggestions, IMHO.
I'm glad your opinion was humble, because it was wrong. > so I suggested they contact someone on the provider list, which I have seen > others suggest as well. There is no issue with suggesting that ofbiz services providers could help (they undoubtedly could), the only issue is with you saying that "anything beyond Out Of The Box is beyond this mailing list" which is completely untrue. I don't really want to keep discussing this but you keep replying with things that make me think you don't understand what I'm saying. > Scott Gray sent the following on 9/30/2010 12:32 PM: >> On 1/10/2010, at 8:20 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >> >>> not sure you read his responses. >> >> I did. >> >>> I can see your point and will try to work what he requirement are beyond >>> the scope of this mailing list. >> >> From the mailing list page in confluence: "The user list is intended for >> installation, deployment, custom development and usage related topics." >> Essentially, if it is related to OFBiz then it is welcome here. >> >>> that sound better. >>> >>> >>> ========================= >>> BJ Freeman >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier >>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> >>> >>> Scott Gray sent the following on 9/30/2010 11:50 AM: >>>> I would suggest looking at the drop ship functionality that is available >>>> in OFBiz and customizing it for this situation. The shopping cart has the >>>> ability to set a supplierPartyId per ship group and that can probably be >>>> leveraged in this situation. What biletnikov is describing is really just >>>> drop shipments with the ability for the customer to decide the supplier >>>> rather than leaving the system to do it automatically. >>>> >>>> But BJ please try and avoid spreading incorrect information, especially >>>> when it has the effect of turning people away from the mailing lists. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 1/10/2010, at 7:21 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> By all means Scott >>>>> Provide him the answer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott Gray sent the following on 9/30/2010 2:16 AM: >>>>>> On 30/09/2010, at 9:38 PM, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> anything beyond Out Of The Box is beyond this mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Huh? Since when is this the case? >>>>>> This list is exactly where people should come when they want to discuss >>>>>> their business problems and how OFBiz could help solve them. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest you contact someone on the providers list available from the >>>>>>> front page of ofbiz to help you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> biletnikov sent the following on 9/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you for your response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The lead time and inventory levels are not used. >>>>>>>> We are not going to use PreferenceOrder and Ratingtype, because we do >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> have preferable or not preferable suppliers. All of them are actual, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> different products can have own list of suppliers, but the customer >>>>>>>> wants to >>>>>>>> select this supplier of the product before he place it into the >>>>>>>> shopping >>>>>>>> cart. And I see that the customer selected SupplierProduct can not be >>>>>>>> considered for the order (in OrderItem) in the current OFBiz data >>>>>>>> model. >>>>>>>> We do not use E-commerce shop, we have own front-end solution, so it >>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>> we are finding the way how to handle with product suppliers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you suggest which way is the most easier to customize: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - store the Product<-> ProductSupplier like one-to-one >>>>>>>> relation, if >>>>>>>> the product has 3 suppliers, it means we create 3 products and add >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> ProductSupplier for each product, if the OrderItem refers to >>>>>>>> productId we >>>>>>>> know which supplier we need >>>>>>>> - have the Product<-> ProductSupplier one-to-many relation, >>>>>>>> but add >>>>>>>> supplierId to the OrderItem. Also, we need a UI possibility in >>>>>>>> OFBiz to edit >>>>>>>> order items and we should able to select a new supplier for the >>>>>>>> OrderItem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we use OFBiz just as ERP, Ordering, Accounty, Party management system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:45 AM, BJ Freeman [via OFBiz]< >>>>>>>> [email protected]<ml-node%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> are you planning on supplying the PreferenceOrder and Ratingtype to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> customer. >>>>>>>>> how about the lead time and inventory levels. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/ViewRelations?entityName=SupplierProduct >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> so every productID can be related to Supplier product. >>>>>>>>> this is done in the Catalog->product-supplier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the one to many for supplier product exists >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/ViewRelations?entityName=Product >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The productID in OrderItem relates to many supplierproducts you enter. >>>>>>>>> you can automatically pick the SupplierPreferenceOrder (main suppler) >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> SupplierRatingtype of that you add that will be the best supplier >>>>>>>>> Rating. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The selection, currently, of the supplier is done by >>>>>>>>> SupplierPreferenceOrder. This is set up manually and customization is >>>>>>>>> necessary to use SupplierRatingtype figure this out by the criteria >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> set from the data in SupplierProduct. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if you put the info in the Product detail page they can select it >>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>> order. that is a customization. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if you put in the Cart after the orders get more complicated unless >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> just want to show what ofbiz current logic selects for the supplier. >>>>>>>>> this also is a customization. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> biletnikov sent the following on 9/29/2010 11:55 AM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In our case, we sell products which are provided by different >>>>>>>>>> suppliers >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> the customer has ability to select the most preferable supplier. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We see, that OFBiz data model allows to specify the suppliers for >>>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>> product (SupplierProduct), so a product can have many suppliers ( for >>>>>>>>>> example, 3 SupplierProduct). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But, how to specify the product and the supplier that customer needs >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> order? A customer wants to see the supplier in the order. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Order entity has OrderItem entities, which relate to Product (via >>>>>>>>>> productId) and nothing for the supplier. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The solution which we see, is to duplicate Product for each supplier >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> have one - to - one relation between Product and SupplierProduct, >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> case we are able to determine the supplier by productId. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it the best solution? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> View message @ >>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Many-suppliers-for-product-the-customer-selects-the-necessary-supplier-tp2719579p2719855.html >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from Many suppliers for product, the customer selects >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> necessary supplier, click >>>>>>>>> here<http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/template/TplServlet.jtp?tpl=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2719579&code=YmlsZXRuaWtvdkBnbWFpbC5jb218MjcxOTU3OXwyMDcwNzk3NDQ4>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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