I noticed you are using Firefox.  Have you had the chance to test
"Browse Catalogs/Categories" using IE?  Even with the original
oldschool theme, it doesn't work for me.  Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Adrian Crum
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Still working on it...
>
> http://www.sandglass-software.com/temp/1280x768.JPG
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 2/3/2011 9:15 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the pic BJ! It demonstrates some of the things that we have
>> discussed.
>>
>> Look at the main navigation tabs. Just look at them.
>>
>> Notice how much unused space there is on the right side of the screen.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be nice if we had a visual theme that fixed the horrid looking
>> main navigation tabs, and also had the ability to collapse the main
>> navigation or make it a column on the left side of the screen?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>>
>> On 2/3/2011 8:55 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> oops.
>>> guess I can't send images.
>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/customerSupport/ofbiz/800x600.jpg
>>>
>>> =========================
>>> BJ Freeman
>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>
>>> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 2/3/2011 8:45 PM:
>>>>
>>>> here is the oldschool 800x600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>
>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:43 AM:
>>>>
>>>>> We did design to the minimum. Flat Grey was tested down to IE7 on
>>>>> Windows XP at
>>>>> 800x600. Here is a screen shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster*
>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:26 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> how many companies to you know that go out and get the latest and
>>>>>> greatest.
>>>>>> most have a 15in 1024x768, that I deal with.
>>>>>> and a lot use the new netbooks which have a 10in to 11in 1024x600
>>>>>> should not we design for the minimum standard with the ability to use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> newer stuff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sent the following on 2/3/2011 10:09 AM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or have the option to move the masthead and main navigation to a
>>>>>>> column.
>>>>>>> Modern wide screen monitors have plenty of horizontal space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a patch that does that, but it's not ready for committing yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoting Ryan
>>>>>>> Foster<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, if you were to calculate total screen real estate and
>>>>>>>> compare pixels of the header, tabs, and footer of the "Old School"
>>>>>>>> (Old Flat Grey) vs. the header and footer of "Dorian Grey" (New Flat
>>>>>>>> Grey), I believe there is actually more total workspace area in the
>>>>>>>> new theme. The difference is where those pieces are in relation to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> fold on the old vs. new.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do think that it would be be a good idea, however, to add back in
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the new theme the ability to collapse the header again. That way, if
>>>>>>>> you are working in a particular application such as the Catalog
>>>>>>>> Manager or Accounting, etc. for an extended period of time and did
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> have an immediate need for the main application nav, you could
>>>>>>>> collapse it out of the way and free up even more screen space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster
>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ctrl + in a browser, allows larger text plus under accessibility
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the oS you can choose larger font, so that is not a biggy to me.
>>>>>>>>> however all the extra component tabs at the top goes against the
>>>>>>>>> reason they were put at the bottom in the first place, and the real
>>>>>>>>> estate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just my 2 cnets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> sent the following on
>>>>>>>>> 2/2/2011
>>>>>>>>> 12:08 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One of the advantages/disadvantages (depending on your POV) of
>>>>>>>>>> the old
>>>>>>>>>> Flat Grey theme was the tiny text and tiny links. Everything was
>>>>>>>>>> made as
>>>>>>>>>> small as possible. The updated theme enlarges and opens up things
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> bit,
>>>>>>>>>> but at the cost of less work area space.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quoting BJ
>>>>>>>>>> Freeman<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just a note:
>>>>>>>>>>> under freeing up screen space
>>>>>>>>>>> add the tabs that were at the bottom of the screen takes up real
>>>>>>>>>>> estate also.
>>>>>>>>>>> on a 1024X760 screen the menus wrap causing less screen space.
>>>>>>>>>>> when comparing the now Old school to the new flat Grey I have
>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>> screen space.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 11:44 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The vast majority of end users are only going to setting their
>>>>>>>>>>>> Time
>>>>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language, and Preferred Theme once. A typical user will
>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>> their personal preferences and may never change it again. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is information is of a peripheral nature, it was moved to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> footer,
>>>>>>>>>>>> freeing up more screen space for the more important day-to-day
>>>>>>>>>>>> information, and de-cluttering the header to put the focus on
>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan L. Foster
>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my screen only get half a page so don't see the bottom,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scrolling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there a reason it can't be on the top where the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> header.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Automation<http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/31/2011 9:50 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look at the bottom of the page. All preferences, including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zone, Language,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Theme are now in the footer on the Flat Grey theme.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /(not sure if everyone can see image attachments on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list, but I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included a screenshot for reference)/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ryan L. Foster*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 801.671.0769
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryanlfoster.com<http://ryanlfoster.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did this get added if so where.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once flat grey is added can not see the themes selection.a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://Specialtymarket.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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