Is part of the intent to use the Maven release plugin for deployment and such 
as well?

-David


On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Eric Bowman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One other point: this tool is currently useful against ofbiz "as-is", in 
> order to build software that depends on it, using maven.  Converting ofbiz to 
> use maven is a considerably bigger project.
> 
> On 13 Jul 2011, at 15:01, David E Jones wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I know various people have expressed interest in Maven over the years. From 
>> a quick search I see such discussions going back to 2003!
>> 
>> OFBiz would definitely benefit from more modularization, and Maven may be 
>> able to help with that. However, it is just a tool and would still require 
>> significant work in addition to what Eric describes below to clean up 
>> higher-level OFBiz artifacts like services and screens and such to make the 
>> dependency tree clean.
>> 
>> Based on the build-time dependencies Eric has generated an interesting graph 
>> that he sent to me, and it turns out to be a pretty good graph of component 
>> dependencies (even though technically if everything were written in the way 
>> intended by the framework, there wouldn't be so many build-time dependencies 
>> like this). The graph is actually better than the old old one I hand-rolled 
>> (that is in the Component and Component Set Dependencies document in the 
>> OFBADMIN space on Confluence).
>> 
>> Getting back to the point, does anyone have an opinion on:
>> 
>> 1. better modularizing OFBiz
>> 2. using Maven for build and/or module dependency management?
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Eric Bowman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've written a tool that we're considering open sourcing, and I'm curious 
>>> to gauge how much interest there would be in it.
>>> 
>>> The purpose of the tool is to generate proper poms for each of the ofbiz 
>>> modules by inspecting an ofbiz directory.  It works in two steps, and it 
>>> uses the Nexus search API (so it's not that interesting unless you have a 
>>> Nexus repository installed somewhere nearby).
>>> 
>>> Here's what it does:
>>> 
>>> 1. Inspects $OFBIZ_HOME recursively, identifying external dependency 
>>> libraries
>>> 2. Generates the SHA1 hash of each jar, and uses a Nexus API to determine 
>>> whether that jar already exists in Nexus as a known artifact.
>>> 3. If it does not, it takes a random sample of the classes in each jar, and 
>>> queries Nexus to see can it figure out a reasonable groupId & artifactId.
>>> 4. For artifacts not already in Nexus, it synthesizes a mvn 
>>> deploy:deploy-file for each jar and each possible 
>>> groupId/artifactId/version it decides might be useful, and lets you decide 
>>> which commands to run to get all the dependency jars in Nexus.
>>> 5. After all the external dependencies are in Nexus, it looks through 
>>> $OFBIZ_HOME again, and determines all the transitive dependencies between 
>>> ofbiz modules
>>> 6. Next it synthesizes a pom for each module, that captures both the 
>>> dependencies in that module's lib directory, as well as the simplest 
>>> transitive graph of dependencies on other modules.
>>> 7. Finally it prints out mvn deploy:deploy-file commands which can be run 
>>> separately to put each ofbiz module's jar file into Nexus, along with its 
>>> pom.
>>> 
>>> If you are using maven, this is pretty nice -- this way you don't have to 
>>> worry about declaring dependencies against all the jars in the ofbiz 
>>> directory; it figures all that out, and leverages maven's transitive 
>>> dependency resolution to make a clean build.
>>> 
>>> Obviously it doesn't solve other problems, like how to deploy an ofbiz 
>>> server in a maveny way, but that may follow.
>>> 
>>> If you're interested in seeing this open sourced, perhaps you can reply 
>>> off-list; if there is enough interest I'll put this on github.  And maybe 
>>> even if there isn't. :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Eric Bowman
>>> 
>> 
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