On 06/08/2014 5:18 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Did you read up to the "Release Information" section?
Yes. I pointed out the inconsistencies in that section
OFBiz is not in Maven, we don't support Maven, we use Ant and Ivy and
we are happy about it.
NP. Since I am more interested in contributing to documentation and
unlikely to add much code or do builds, it does not affect me.
No pressure at all, we are free to release when we are ready, that's all.
Maybe you now got a chance to read the "Release Information" section
(and yes this is ironic), in any case, if you did not get yet what
13.07 means: it means that the last release branch was friezed in July
2013 and since only bug fixes are committed in this branch. You are
free to not like it, and to continue to rant :p
That is not clear from the release section. It says that 13.01 should
have been the first release.
The 13.07 release date is June 2014 but it does not seem to be on the
download library.
Note: this is only my opinion (ie it's not on behalf of the PMC),
anyone is free to have his/her own. But let's face it, that's how it
works!
My only concern about the versioning pattern is that it looks to be
non-standard and does not follow the practice of other Apache products.
I am trying to point out that the documentation is inconsistent within
the page and seems not to match reality.
It needs to be updated by someone who knows the truth and can fix the
places where it needs it.
If pointing out errors or shortcomings in the documentation is
"ranting". I will try to "rant" as constructively as possible.
Ron
Jacques
Le 06/08/2014 21:18, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
The page should be changed to reflect the actual policy.
13.07 seems like an odd way to number the first release of the 13
major version. I don't see it in the distribution page.
I certainly makes it more difficult to understand and makes it harder
to use any of the Maven Release tools
I guess that it does put some pressure on the PMC to get stuff done
since the second digit has to be selected at the start of the release.
You are committing to a release month before you start the work.
Ron
On 06/08/2014 3:00 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
Ron,
In 2009 or thereabouts the PMC decided to adopt the Ubuntu way of
numbering OFBiz releases. Since then every year in april a release
was cut. But as the number of active committers is decreasing the
time to release a cut takes more time. Last year broke with that
policy, resulting in a release been cut with number 13.07.
Regards,
Pierre Smits
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Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Ron Wheeler
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
https://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html page needs updating.
Is the 12.04.05 release date closer to being known?
The description of the Release number says that release numbers
consist of 2 parts
"The naming convention for OFBiz releases is*<Major Release
Number>.<Minor Release Number>"*
but the releases seem to have 3 digits. Patch description missing.
The 13.x.x series part of the page puzzles me.
It seems to indicate that some early versions 13.0.0, 13.07.01
should already be able to be downloaded.
It also seems to indicate that the 13.x.x will be released in 2014
which means that it should have a 14.x.x release number.
I am not sure why a non-standard pattern of release identification
was adopted but it is confusing and now inconsistent.
It leads to the impression that the project is not active since it
missed 2013 altogether.
Would it not be possible/"good thing" to adopt a standard pattern
of releases where the first digit indicates major change with some
risk of serious work required to upgrade, second digit indicating
significant new functionality but no change to the existing data
structure or functions that are not changing and the last digits
indicating a minor bug fix?
Ron
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