Hi Pierre

As always tanks for your effort.

You say I've got this information at my disposal. In what form? Where? I'am
asking because I'm not sure if you're implying that I can use those values
in code or if I find them somewhere else.

One more Problem. I should've mentioned it from the start but there is more
than one SSS rate, just as there is more than one VAT rate. Depending on
the product/service sold i have to use one of these rates here
<http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classified-compilation/20102858/index.html> to
calculate Total VAT due.

If i could get a split like:

   - Total VAT applicable turnover *rateA*: 100
   - Total VAT collected *rateA*: 8
   - Total VAT due *rateA* (100+8) x 6% = 6.42
   - -------------------------------------------------------------------
   - Total VAT applicable turnover *rateB*: 50
   - Total VAT collected *rateB*: 2.5
   - Total VAT due *rateB* (100+2.5) x 3% = 3.075

Like creating different Tax accounts to use for the different SSS rates.
Would such a setup be possible? How would I Access the VAT collected,
turnover, due information?

Freundliche Grüsse

Adrian Stern
unchained - web solutions

[email protected]
+41 79 292 83 47

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> Please see my comment(s) inline.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Adrian Stern <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes. Tax is not easy. You did understand me correctly and yes it is some
> > kind of subsidy scheme.
> >
> > I'm afraid I cannot follow you. Let me racap.
> >
> > Since i always bill the customer for the net amount plus 8% VAT - I
> should
> > configure that. This will fill my Tax account with the amounts due for
> the
> > different VAT Rates and also create me the correct invoice to bill the
> > customer.
> >
>
> Yes, in order to get correct invoicing and VAT collection from your
> customer you have to set the tax category and the appropriate percentage
> (8%). This will lead to GL transactions of the following kind:
>
> Debtors (accounts receivable): 108 debit (asset)
> VAT collected: 8 credit (liability)
> Turnover on sales: 100 credit (income)
>
> Nothing needs to be done additionally configuration wise.
>
>
> >
> > But how would I correct this after? I would have to check each invoice by
> > hand (or create an export for calculation) and manually subtract this
> > amount from the tax account. This would be a lot of work. In addition,
> > would the balance be wrong most of the time since it includes the VAT
> Rates
> > and not the SSS Rate. I don't believe any accountant would like that.
> >
>
> Now, whenever (at the end of each period) you have to submit your VAT
> declaration to the Swiss tax authority, you have the following information
> at your disposal to generate the statement:
>
> Total VAT applicable turnover: 100
> Total VAT collected: 8
> Total VAT due (100 + 8) x 6%  = 6.42
>
> So your GL transaction regarding this would/could be:
> VAT Transfer account: 8 debit (countering the previous transaction entry,
> rendering the balance to 0)
> VAT due: 6.42 credit (liability)
> VAT deferred 1.58 credit (income - subsidy aspect for small companies)
>
> This would eliminate the need to implement the following:
>
>
> >
> > What do you mean by "specific tax categorization of product-customer
> > combinations"? I assume you don't mean the "categories" tab from tax
> > authorities? So what do you mean more specifically by reducing the
> > percentage with it?
> >
> > Freundliche Grüsse
> >
> > Adrian Stern
> > unchained - web solutions
> >
> > [email protected]
> > +41 79 292 83 47
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian,
> > >
> > > Always keep in mind what the legal and fiscal requirements are that are
> > > imposed on your company.
> > >
> > > If I understand you posting correctly you are required to include tax
> > for
> > > 8% VAT regarding the net amount on the invoice to your customer. Your
> > > customer must pay this 108% to you. I also understand that at the end
> of
> > a
> > > certain period you must submit your VAT tax statement pertaining the
> > > invoice of 100. On that statement you have to declare 6% of 108 (100
> +8%)
> > > as the VAT due.
> > >
> > > Now, the following question might help you to find the answer to your
> > > question/request: what about the difference between the 8 mentioned on
> > the
> > > invoice and the 6,48 that you are required to pay to the tax authority?
> > Are
> > > you required to refund the customer, or is it some kind of subsidy
> scheme
> > > in your country to further your company?
> > >
> > > Anyway, I would suggest to avoid - as much as possible - increasing
> your
> > > invoicing scheme and your gl setup with some complex price ruling
> > mechanism
> > > to get to the 6.48.
> > > If you are expected (at periods end) to have only included VAT up to
> 6.48
> > > you can either correct this manually then, or reduce the percentage
> > through
> > > specific tax categorisation of those product-customer combinations.
> > >
> > > Tax is never easy!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > > Services and Retail & Trade
> > > http://www.orrtiz.com
> > >
> >
>

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