Good points.

How many of the new visitors are going to install OFBiz themselves as compared to the number who will ask an OFBiz System Integrator to do the job?

How many are coming here to verify the assertions made by System Integrators or to assess the maturity of their proposed system's base product (roadmap, release frequency, maintenance policies, strength of the management team) and activity of the community?

Many (most???) of the key contributors make their living by delivering a fork of OFBiz that they customize for each client so they may have a different perspective of what the site should do. What should be the balance between open source traditions vs promoting individual SI companies through listing their customers and resources or linking to their web sites?

Ron

On 28/07/2015 11:58 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
Agree with all.

>From our experiences anyone who contacts us about OFBiz services is typically 
a techy. They have dug around the OFBiz and BigFish sites and are looking for 
additional information in order to gauge how applicable OFBiz is for their 
business. As a tech their first hurdle will be to convince the bosses to consider 
OFBiz. I'm sure in most cases the bosses do some basic research and are totally 
unimpressed with our current informational web sites.

As a business owner, whenever I'm looking for software solutions I will be 
swayed by:

(a) who is using it now -- number of customers and who those customers are 
(have I heard of them)

(b) who can support my tech / user team to get up and running

(c) who can support my tech / user team into the future (strength of 
documentation, resources, community)

Now for a more contentious topic that has been raised before -- a more 
compelling and prominent list, with some visuals, of who-is-using-OFBiz and 
Service Providers. IMHO, we have to remember that most of the other Apache 
projects are technical in nature, and the decisions for selection are made by 
techies, with approval from a techy boss. These offerings are also downloaded 
thousands of times (of hundreds of thousands) so having a who-is-using-this 
section is inappropriate.

OFBiz is different, it's a bet-your-business decision and a decision typically 
approved by the business.  I'd like to think we can do a much better job of 
promoting (marketing) the solution for the real decision makers (in Adrian's 
words, CFO / CIO).

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brohl [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website

I totally agree with that point with an addition - the business *and*
technical stuff must be presented in a clear and easy to find way.

We don't know who is looking at the site and for what purpose so
everything should be covered:

- the CEO/CFO who is looking for a new platform wants to see features,
licenses, references who is using OFBiz, service providers etc.,
everything you need to decide if OFBiz is for you on the business level
and which risks and chances it brings

- the CIO and his staff who has the task to evaluate new platforms for
his company, he needs some of the above but also some more technical
informations like architecture, used frameworks, documentation etc. to
decide if the platform is also fitting to the company system landscape,
the know-how of his staff etc.

- the developer who is searching for technical documentation, data
models, API, best practices etc.

- the user who is searching for user centric documentation, best
practices and help

I think the main page should include these entry points with easy to
understand titles.

Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de

Am 28.07.15 um 10:14 schrieb Adrian Crum:
It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
the existing developer-centric content.

Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to
make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to
the outside world.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
Hi All

Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
examples
of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?

Thanks
Sharan



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