Hi Jacques ,

The patch is quite simple and we would readily contribute.
I am sure many Indian adopters would have already developed it
for their installations.

But without generalising it , it is difficult to  convert it to a  patch
for OOTB feature set.

At the same time GST is too important here(in India) and will possibly
stay.

Any  accounting system that does not handle GST here is *not* usable.
The recent GST rollout ( since 1st Apr 2017) has itself created a huge
(short-term) market of  migrations and accounting software upgrades.

I just hope this requirement gets its due attention and some way
is found  to either cleanly extend Ofbiz accounting to handle such
taxation methods OR make it possible for adopters to have user-defined
handling for a class/category of  TaxAuthorities.

I feel if we are simply able to categorize TaxAuthorities  in user
defined Categories the logic can be cleanly developed and applied.
Assuming that such a facility exists,  the work flow for enduser to
implement GST would be.


(1) Create a new TaxAuthorityCategory --> say "India GST"
(2) Place the TaxAuthority in the new category "India GST"
(2) In calcTax

if ( taxAuth.Category contains "India GST")   // assuming
TaxAuthorityCategory is 1-to-many relation.
{
// apply Custom logic for  GST
}

=========================

essentially we(end-user) shall be in a position to apply any custom logic
to a given
category of taxAuthority.  as Mr Deepak says ,

"GST is common but how to calculate GST is different"

I concur here and feel that generalizing it may be too difficult a task and
will not even find
too many matching candidates. instead if the framework provides a
categorization
(or equivalent ) people can write their custom logic (however complicated)
based on
their local rules.



regds
mallah.




On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Rajesh,
>
> What you need does not exist. If it could be generalised and used all over
> the world that would be perfect.
>
> This need to be discussed in dev ML in order for everybody to agree (or at
> least get a consensus) and so avoid wasting time
>
> Then we can create a Jira and if possible attach a patch
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 11/10/2017 à 13:15, Rajesh Mallah a écrit :
>
>> Hello Deepak / Everyone ,
>>
>> We have been able to achieve the selective application of taxes by
>> modifying the service calcTax ( java function: rateProductTaxCalc )
>> it works as expected.
>>
>> The logic works by removing those taxes which are not applicable as per
>> the situation (ie based on Shipping addresses)
>>
>> However we would want the implement it in a more generic manner,
>> rite now the code checks specific PartyIDs associated with the
>> TaxAuthority,
>> is there any way to indicate that this specific handling of taxes should
>> be
>> limited to certain kind of taxauthorities ?
>>
>> Is there way of setting some meta-data on TaxAuthority or some kind of
>> classification.
>>
>> regds
>> mallah.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Deepak Dixit <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Sure ,
>>>
>>> Please let us know if you face any issue. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> --
>>> Deepak Dixit
>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Rajesh Mallah <[email protected]
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks it helps. Shall give it a shot.
>>>>
>>>> regds
>>>> mallah.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Deepak Dixit <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rajesh,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two way,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. You can do changes in applications/accounting/src/
>>>>> main/java/org/apache/ofbiz/accounting/tax/TaxAuthorityServices.java
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> create patch and maintain it in your custom component.
>>>>> 2. You can override service calTax and/or related services/method in
>>>>>
>>>> your
>>>
>>>> custom component.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>> --
>>>>> Deepak Dixit
>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Rajesh Mallah <
>>>>>
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Deepak , Appreciate your response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a glance over
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applications/accounting/servicedef/services_tax.xml  &
>>>>>> applications/accounting/src/main/java/org/apache/ofbiz/
>>>>>>
>>>>> accounting/tax/
>>>
>>>> TaxAuthorityServices.java
>>>>>> looks encouraging!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how should the change be managed to survive ofbiz upgrades?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are we expected  to change TaxAuthorityServices.java ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regds
>>>>>> mallah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Deepak Dixit <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rajesh,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To calculate GST you need to write custom calc tax service, that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> honor
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shipFrom address as well.
>>>>>>> GST is common but how to calculate GST is different, As per Indian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> context
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GST is calculated based on shipFrom and ShipTo address.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need some changes in calcTax service and getTaxAuthorities
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> methods
>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> return the taxAuthority.OFBiz has capability to setup different
>>>>>>> taxAuthParties. So with proper data setup along with some changes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> you
>>>
>>>> can
>>>>>
>>>>>> setup GST tax calculation properly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Deepak Dixit
>>>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com
>>>>>>> www.hotwax.co
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Rajesh Mallah <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We find that most of logic of Tax is in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> applications/accounting/src/main/java/org/apache/ofbiz/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> accounting/tax/
>>>>>
>>>>>> TaxAuthorityServices.java
>>>>>>>> can/should we modify it as per our need or there is a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> better/easier
>>>
>>>> way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As GST requirement is very common(universal) now in India , i am
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> curious
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how people have implemented
>>>>>>>> here using OfBiz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regds
>>>>>>>> mallah.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Rajesh Mallah <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I need help regarding how to apply taxes   broadly based on the
>>>>>>>>> fact whether the supplier and consumer are in same state or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>
>>>> We are able to apply taxes based on GEO ID of the customer but
>>>>>>>>> what is really required is the below:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If Supplier.state == Customer.state
>>>>>>>>>        add adjustment SGST @  X%
>>>>>>>>>        add adjustment CGST @  X%
>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>        add adjustment IGST  @  X+X%
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where:
>>>>>>>>> CGST --> Central Goods & Services Tax
>>>>>>>>> SGST --> State Goods & Services Tax
>>>>>>>>> IGST  --> Integrated Goods & Services Tax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help on this regard is solicited.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regds
>>>>>>>>> mallah.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>

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