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On jue, 2016-12-08 at 15:45 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> To be fair, I believe *.flv can also be dropped .....
> WDYT?
> 
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote:
>         ...ok
>         
>         
>         ........
>         
>         On jue, 2016-12-08 at 15:38 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>         > There should be 3 files: *.flv, *.mp4, *.jpg
>         > Internal error is fixed, build #476 is in progress
>         >
>         > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Alvaro <[email protected]>
>         wrote:
>         >         ...Ok, a second recording now it is right,
>         >         without yellow icon (now my network target
>         >         is connected to switch). But when clic on this
>         >         Recording line to watch it, take me to "Internal
>         >         error" again.
>         >
>         >         Please tell me if the recordings files must be
>         >         in mp4 only or also flv.
>         >
>         >         Will wait to the next build.
>         >
>         >
>         >         ................
>         >         On jue, 2016-12-08 at 15:10 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
>         wrote:
>         >         > There is no JPG file :( ...
>         >         > Please click to the yellow "!" icon near to
>         recording to see
>         >         > conversion errors
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Internal error was just fixed: Committed revision
>         1773193
>         >         > Please wait for the next build
>         >         >
>         >         > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Alvaro
>         <[email protected]>
>         >         wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         >         Good morning Maxim,
>         >         >
>         >         >         OM 3.1.4 #475
>         >         >
>         >         >         When make a recording in Public Room and
>         >         >         go to Recordings to watch it, clic on the
>         >         >         recording file line and:
>         >         >
>         >         >         screenshot = 1.png
>         >         >
>         >         >         screenshot = 2.png
>         >         >
>         >         >         screenshot = 3.png
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         .........................
>         >         >
>         >         >         On jue, 2016-12-08 at 11:32 +0700, Maxim
>         Solodovnik
>         >         wrote:
>         >         >         > OK, done
>         >         >         > Thanks for patience :)
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Alvaro
>         >         <[email protected]>
>         >         >         wrote:
>         >         >         >         +1
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         ..............
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         On mié, 2016-12-07 at 12:47
>         +0700, Maxim
>         >         Solodovnik
>         >         >         wrote:
>         >         >         >         > Hello Peter, All,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         > Recently I find out *.ogg is
>         not needed
>         >         >         >         > anymore:
>         >         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
>          https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1518
>         >         >         >         > Maybe we also can drop *.avi
>         and only
>         >         have *.flv
>         >         >         and *.mp4,
>         >         >         >         both are
>         >         >         >         > required
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         > this way only 3 files will be
>         stored per
>         >         >         recording:
>         >         >         >         > *.jpg
>         >         >         >         > *.flv
>         >         >         >         > *.mp4
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         > WDYT?
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 4:20
>         PM, Peter
>         >         Dähn
>         >         >         <[email protected]>
>         >         >         >         wrote:
>         >         >         >         >         Hi Maxim,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         no problem, I could
>         wait... ;-)
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         From my point of view
>         it
>         >         wouldn't be
>         >         >         complicated.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         Just the configuration
>         key is
>         >         needed and
>         >         >         the
>         >         >         >         default-value is
>         >         >         >         >         any.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         And the description
>         could it be
>         >         really
>         >         >         short:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         value "any" ->
>         screensharing
>         >         output flv ,
>         >         >         avi , mp4
>         >         >         >         (default)
>         >         >         >         >         value "mp4" ->
>         screensharing
>         >         output mp4
>         >         >         >         >         value "avi" ->
>         screensharing
>         >         output mp4 ,
>         >         >         avi
>         >         >         >         >         value "flv" ->
>         screensharing
>         >         output mp4 ,
>         >         >         flv
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         Anyone who doesn't
>         change it
>         >         will not
>         >         >         realize any
>         >         >         >         change.
>         >         >         >         >         Otherwise I need to
>         change it to
>         >         a
>         >         >         specific value
>         >         >         >         and should
>         >         >         >         >         know what I want, like
>         in
>         >         "max_upload_size
>         >         >         >         1073741824".
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         Do you really think
>         this would
>         >         be a
>         >         >         problem?
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         Greetings Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >         Am 10.10.2016 um 05:53
>         schrieb
>         >         Maxim
>         >         >         Solodovnik:
>         >         >         >         >                 Hello Peter,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                 sorry for the
>         late
>         >         response, was
>         >         >         busy :(
>         >         >         >         >                 I see no way
>         to satisfy
>         >         requests
>         >         >         like this:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-265
>         >         >         >         >                 without
>         >         >         >         >                 changing
>         >         configuration :(
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                 I guess your
>         idea will
>         >         work, but
>         >         >         it might be
>         >         >         >         too
>         >         >         >         >                 complicated
>         for some
>         >         users ...
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                 On Mon, Jul 4,
>         2016 at
>         >         9:08 PM,
>         >         >         Peter Dähn
>         >         >         >         >
>          <[email protected]> wrote:
>         >         >         >         >                         Hi
>         Maxim,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         sorry
>         for the
>         >         late
>         >         >         response.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         Do you
>         think it
>         >         is
>         >         >         necessary to
>         >         >         >         change the
>         >         >         >         >
>          current
>         >         configuration
>         >         >         behavior?
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         As far
>         as I see,
>         >         there are
>         >         >         4
>         >         >         >         options:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         1. do
>         it like
>         >         now
>         >         >         (.flv, .avi
>         >         >         >         and .mp4)
>         >         >         >         >                         2.
>         anything
>         >         without .flv
>         >         >         and .avi
>         >         >         >         >                         3.
>         anything
>         >         without .flv
>         >         >         >         >                         4.
>         anything
>         >         without .avi
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         This
>         could work
>         >         with key
>         >         >         value as
>         >         >         >         well.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>          Configuration
>         >         key: "screen
>         >         >         recording
>         >         >         >         output
>         >         >         >         >
>          format"
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         value:
>         mp4 or
>         >         avi or flv
>         >         >         or anything
>         >         >         >         else
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         value
>         mp4 would
>         >         mean
>         >         >         simply skip
>         >         >         >         rendering of
>         >         >         >         >                         avi
>         and flv.
>         >         >         >         >                         value
>         avi should
>         >         result in
>         >         >         jpg, ogg,
>         >         >         >         mp4 and
>         >         >         >         >                         avi.
>         >         >         >         >                         value
>         flv should
>         >         result in
>         >         >         jpg, ogg,
>         >         >         >         mp4 and
>         >         >         >         >                         flv.
>         >         >         >         >
>          Everything else
>         >         doesn't
>         >         >         change the
>         >         >         >         behavior.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         Could
>         it work
>         >         like that?
>         >         >         >         >
>          Greetings Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         Am
>         23.06.2016 um
>         >         05:48
>         >         >         schrieb Maxim
>         >         >         >         >
>          Solodovnik:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>          Actually the
>         >         problem with
>         >         >         this
>         >         >         >         configuration
>         >         >         >         >                         is:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>          current
>         >         configuration is
>         >         >         simple
>         >         >         >         key-value
>         >         >         >         >                         pairs
>         (both
>         >         strings)
>         >         >         >         >                         here
>         it should
>         >         be sort of
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         "multi-select-with-some-preselected-items"
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         so we
>         need
>         >         >         >         >                         1) to
>         refactor
>         >         current
>         >         >         >         configurations section
>         >         >         >         >                         to be
>         able to
>         >         store
>         >         >         various
>         >         >         >         >                         data
>         (integers,
>         >         Strings,
>         >         >         drop-downs,
>         >         >         >         lists,
>         >         >         >         >
>          complex-objects
>         >         (like
>         >         >         default
>         >         >         >         >
>          appointment))
>         >         >         >         >                         2)
>         create
>         >         additional
>         >         >         config section
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         I
>         would love to
>         >         hear some
>         >         >         ideas
>         >         >         >         regarding this
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         On
>         Tue, Jun 21,
>         >         2016 at
>         >         >         12:58 AM,
>         >         >         >         Susheel
>         >         >         >         >                         Jalali
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          <[email protected]> wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            Dear
>         >         Fellow
>         >         >         Developers,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            Further
>         >         to the
>         >         >         idea of
>         >         >         >         selection of
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          recording formats,
>         >         >         we could
>         >         >         >         do the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          following:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            The
>         >         check-boxes of
>         >         >         Ogg/MP4
>         >         >         >         could be
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          pre-selected and
>         >         >         greyed out
>         >         >         >         (i,e, not
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          removable, as they
>         >         >         are
>         >         >         >         required).
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            All
>         >         other formats
>         >         >         could be
>         >         >         >         made
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          available for
>         >         >         selection with
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          check-boxes.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            --
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Sincerely,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            Susheel
>         >         Jalali
>         >         >         >         >
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>            On
>         >         06/20/16 17:15,
>         >         >         Peter
>         >         >         >         Dähn wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            I think
>         >         anybody
>         >         >         would be
>         >         >         >         fine if one
>         >         >         >         >
>            could
>         >         configure
>         >         >         the outcome
>         >         >         >         somehow.
>         >         >         >         >
>            It
>         >         should safe
>         >         >         space and if
>         >         >         >         possible
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          processing power.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Greetings Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            Am
>         >         20.06.2016 um
>         >         >         13:22
>         >         >         >         schrieb Maxim
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Solodovnik:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          unfortunately
>         >         >         ogg/mp4 is
>         >         >         >         required
>         >         >         >         >
>            formats
>         >         >         >         >
>            <video>
>         >         tag will
>         >         >         not work
>         >         >         >         without any
>         >         >         >         >
>            of them
>         >         >         >         >
>            so we
>         >         need
>         >         >         selectable list
>         >         >         >         somewhere
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>            On Mon,
>         >         Jun 20,
>         >         >         2016 at 5:19
>         >         >         >         PM, Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>            Dähn
>         >         >         <[email protected]> wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Hello
>         >         >         together,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          probably
>         >         >         it would be
>         >         >         >         better to
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          choose the
>         >         >         recording
>         >         >         >         format in
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          screensharing
>         >         >         >         client. Then it
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          wouldn't
>         >         >         be
>         >         >         >         necessary to run
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          ffmpeg
>         >         >         multiple
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          times.
>         >         >         That would
>         >         >         >         save time
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          and
>         >         >         resources.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          And once
>         >         >         again with
>         >         >         >         an
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          configuration option
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          "preferred
>         >         >         screen
>         >         >         >         recording
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          format" ;-)
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Greetings
>         >         >         Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Am
>         >         >         20.06.2016 um
>         >         >         >         04:57 schrieb
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          Maxim
>         >         >         Solodovnik:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          BTW,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          recordings
>         >         >         are
>         >         >         >         available at
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         {OM_BASE_URL}/recordings/avi/${id}
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         {OM_BASE_URL}/recordings/flv/${id}
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         {OM_BASE_URL}/recordings/mp4/${id}
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         {OM_BASE_URL}/recordings/ogg/${id}
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         {OM_BASE_URL}/recordings/jpg/${id}
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          where
>         >         >         ${id} ==
>         >         >         >         recording ID
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          On Sun,
>         >         >         Jun 19, 2016
>         >         >         >         at 2:34
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          PM,
>         >         >         Susheel Jalali
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          <[email protected]>
>         >         >         >         >
>         >          wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Dear Fellow
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Developers,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Here is a
>         >         >         >         suggestion
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          that would
>         >         >         >         make this
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          recording
>         >         >         >         option even
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          more
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          user
>         >         >         >         friendly, and
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          give more
>         >         >         >         flexibility
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  to
>         >         >         users.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Instead of
>         >         >         >         removing
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          the FLV, AVI
>         >         >         >         or any
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          other
>         >         >         >         option, which
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          will limit
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          the choice
>         >         >         >         for many
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          users, could
>         >         >         >         we give
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          the users a
>         >         >         >         dialog
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          popup  with
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          checkboxes
>         >         >         >         or radio
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          buttons to
>         >         >         >         select
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          which format
>         >         >         >         they want
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  to
>         >         >         save.
>         >         >         >         When
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          user clicks
>         >         >         >         the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          desired
>         >         >         >         checkbox or
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          radio
>         >         >         >         button, only
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          that format
>         >         >         >         will be
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          saved.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          This will
>         >         >         >         retain the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          choice and
>         >         >         >         yet save
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          space, and
>         >         >         >         ultimately
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          make the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          product more
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          feature-rich
>         >         >         >         and
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          capable.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  --
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Sincerely,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Susheel
>         >         >         >         Jalali
>         >         >         >         >
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>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Solutions'
>         >         >         >         posted at:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  On
>         >         >         06/17/16
>         >         >         >         15:13,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Maxim
>         >         >         >         Solodovnik
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Helo Peter,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Thanks a
>         >         >         >         lot :)
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          Actually
>         >         >         >         recordings
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          are being
>         >         >         >         stored in
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          following
>         >         >         >         formats
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          simultaneously:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_527.jpg
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_528.avi
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_528.flv
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_528.flv.mp4
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_528.flv.ogg
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  so
>         >         >         I guess
>         >         >         >         mp4 is
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          already in
>         >         >         >         the list :)
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  I
>         >         >         believe we
>         >         >         >         can drop
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          (flvRecording_528.avi
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          and
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          flvRecording_528.flv
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          since its
>         >         >         >         not in use),
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  in
>         >         >         some
>         >         >         >         future
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          versions to
>         >         >         >         save
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >          space :)
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  On
>         >         >         Fri, Jun
>         >         >         >         17, 2016
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  at
>         >         >         2:52 PM,
>         >         >         >         Peter Dähn
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          <[email protected]> wrote:
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Hello
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          together,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          welcome back
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Maxim,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                we
>         >         >         >         would like
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                to
>         >         >         >         transcode
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          recorded files
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                to
>         >         >         >         mp4. This
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          could also be
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                done
>         >         >         >         by ffmpeg
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                I
>         >         >         >         think. Give
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                me a
>         >         >         >         hint,
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          where to
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          search and
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          change the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          ffmpeg
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          commands.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Another idea
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          would be an
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          entry in the
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          configuration.
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Something like
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          "preferred
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          screen
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          recording
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          format" or how
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >                you
>         >         >         >         would name
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          it...
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Greetings
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >          Peter
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >                  --
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >                         --
>         >         >         >         >                         WBR
>         >         >         >         >                         Maxim
>         aka
>         >         solomax
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         > --
>         >         >         >         > WBR
>         >         >         >         > Maxim aka solomax
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > --
>         >         >         > WBR
>         >         >         > Maxim aka solomax
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > --
>         >         > WBR
>         >         > Maxim aka solomax
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > WBR
>         > Maxim aka solomax
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax



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