That would be great! ;-) So far, good discussion guys ;-) Everything
will become fine! 

Am 07.06.2018 06:48, schrieb K, Amit (MIND): 

> By default we can show limited say six or nine (3*3 OR 3*2) and can give 
> scroll or show all option. 
> 
> FROM: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com] 
> SENT: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:13 AM
> TO: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org>
> SUBJECT: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio 
> setup 
> 
> I'm afraid it will overlap in current implementation 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: 
> 
> For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio only, 
> thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this video pods. 
> ;-) 
> 
> But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got more 
> then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on the right 
> sight or will they "stack" in another line? 
> 
> Greetz Stefan 
> 
> Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 
> 
> Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even if 
> it doesn't fit .... 
> 
> So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose 
> huge camera .... 
> 
> I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ... 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to the 
> open-source version. :) We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe others 
> have a better idea for a name for the roomtype? 
> 
> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But maybe 
> that would be something to consider in the future. 
> 
> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could try 
> it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people want 
> those things changed it can be discussed later. 
> 
> Just my thoughts on this. 
> 
> Dan 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: 
> 
> Good Idea, I agree.
> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type? 
> 
> Greetz Stefan 
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn: 
> 
> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
> 
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
> 
> Greetings Peter
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> 
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK 
> with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2) This 
> custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would be 
> impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open ... On 
> Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: 
> 
> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be very 
> helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files which have 
> to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with it. Thanks 
> Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case it was a 
> custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is interest in making 
> this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three already in existence) or 
> if you'd have to have a developer create it for you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 
> 10:34 AM, <aaron.h...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above. 
> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I 
> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:* 
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list 
> <user@openmeetings.apache.org> *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the flash 
> audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with how 
> difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup the 
> first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to settings 
> before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as: 
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] But it would 
> be great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier to 
> use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the video 
> pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good solution for 
> some of you. Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38
AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote: I don't like that idea with tha 
additional board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat 
this will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already 
discussed this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-) Hotkey to minimize 
all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be better... something like 
that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl: Nice! But 
this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area, too. All I need ist enough 
space for the whiteboard, also an small displays. ;-) The idea with an 
additional "board" as a register (you know what I mean?) seems to be a helpful 
solution. WDYT Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb Peter Dähn: joop... ;-) let it 
so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with custom.css... ;-) Am 05.06.2018 um 
12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn 
<da...@vcrp.de> wrote: Hi there, by now we handle it that way: Not needed
videos will be moved under the chat area... This is how "bug" can be turned 
into "feature" :))) We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the 
whiteboard. "Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions 
starts..." this works quite good... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 
schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be 
good option But this will occupy all the place .... and it will be impossible 
to free some space only turn off Video of everyone .... On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 
5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND) <ami...@mind-infotech.com> <ami...@mind-infotech.com> 
wrote: For space specific, I have a suggestion: We can create a parent space 
(Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as thumbnail in that space which 
can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on screen by as button click 
(Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key. -----Original Message----- 
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com <solomax...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM To: Openmeetings user-list 
<user@openmeetings.apache.org> <user@openmeetings.apache.org> Subject: Re: Get 
in challenge with the flash audio setup TIP: Actually you can use URL like this 
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ... Will create bullet list to organize questions 
:)) 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other 
components were ported to HTML5 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful 
feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to have my table reorganized by someone else .... 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
(unfortunately not very stable :(( ) 4) We are always looking for improved 
translations :) German one is being translated by the community, please send 
updated XML if you see how this can be improved :) On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 
PM, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: Hi 
Maxim, ok, to
get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to confirm by 
entering the room a second time? minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the 
moderator pushes the key (or an additional command) to minimize all windows 
from all the participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner 
under the list of participants? To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one 
participants who call me by the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all 
we find out that he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean. 
By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings just 
give me a yell ;-) Greetz Stefan Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 
Hello Stefan, "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup 
" Is only required once, can be improved in 5.0 .... According to minimize by 
default I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1 [2]] 
(minimize all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
"re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows .... WDYT? [1] 
http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html [2] On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, 
Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> wrote: Hi @all, 
yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and collect some kind 
of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge was the flash-setup for 
the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he has to fullfil the complete setup 
order (allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup and go 
back to room - and again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for 
those who are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way? 
Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in audio only). 
Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default? Some of the 
participants are still using small displays with lower resolution (19" <- 
sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore three video pods shown up, there
nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in mind? Thanks Stefan! -- WBR Maxim aka 
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