On 2/9/21 1:36 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 17:26, Ali Alhaidary
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 2/9/21 12:59 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Well I start to add new room option for 'suffix'
But find out I'm not sure how should it work
1) It is impossible to delete recordings from Moodle plugin
Currently it is possible, is it going to be 'impossible' ?
how?
Drag and drop it in the bin.
2) It seems filtering will also be useless due to 'suffix' will
be in effect _AFTER_ save, and not before
The suffix should be defined in the activity creation (input text
box) form, so when the activity is created, the teacher will get
something like 'moodle-ENG101' if the suffix is defined as
'-ENG101' and module is 'moodle' by default. And in turn, a new
group should be created in OM database called 'moodle-ENG101'.
And when the teacher finishes his lesson recording, he rename it,
and move it to the 'moodle-ENG101' group recordings that is shown
in his files tree
this step seems to be redundant
Currently, recordings are put by default in 'my recordings', so he has
to move it to 'group recordings', and this is a good thing, as the
teacher wants to review the recording before moving it to the 'group
recording'.
, so that when he wants to created 'recording only' activity, he
can select:
1. The group name that belongs to him, then
2. The recording of that specific group.
this is part that will not work :(
when the teacher will create new activity all recordings for the mail
group will be selected
(due to at the moment of creation all fields of activity are empty ....)
Fine, but at least sorted by module, suffix
:-)
sounds like I don't understand the use case :(
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 14:25, Maxim Solodovnik
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ali Alhaidary
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The main issues we face:
1. All teachers share the same repository of recordings
which makes mistakes of deleting the recording very
common :-(
2. When using 'show recording' all recordings will be on
the list, can you imagine how many 'Chapter 1 -
introduction' recording would be on the list ??? almost
all teachers name their first lesson that.
these 2 will be addressed with new Moodle room option
3. And still in the plugin activity downloading the
recording is done in an internal name, not as named by
the teacher.
this need to be investigated
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:51 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Yes, moodle database is not UTF8 by default, but we
usually change it. And, yes, it has the same name,
however, one more thing, it was two word group name
separated by space 'النُّجُومُ الخَمْسَةِ'. if single
Arabic word without space is used then show recording'
will work as expected.
Ali
On 12/30/20 5:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 18:34, Ali Alhaidary
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It seems that 'show recordings' did not work was
not because 'Module key' was not 'moodle', but
because 'Module key' was an Arabic name,
Aha!
this makes sense
Moodle database is not UTF8 by default
can you check in the logs (and in OM)
Does the group created in OM has the same name as
"Module key"?
when we changed it to English name, it did work ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:54 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
Than you @Max, see my response embedded ...
Ali
On 12/30/20 12:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 13:45, Ali Alhaidary
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/23/20 9:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Ali,
thirst of all we need to agree on definitions :)
OM instance for me is "configured OM server"
What do you mean by this?
Yes, thirst, but for new and enhanced
features :-)
I mean "first", sorry for the typo :(
That is OK :-)
OM instance is the activity created in one
class and not the plugin (OM plugin), so let
re-write:
moving 'Module key' from OM plugin config to
the config of OM activity created in one class.
Moving "Module-key" is not an option
It also serves for security purposes i.e. to make
rooms/users/recordings of one connected plugin to
be inaccessible for another plugin
What I can propose is to add "suffix" i.e.
teacher/admin can create OM activity and specify
"Group" in additional field (empty by default)
In such case module key will be `plugin key`
concatenated with `group`
Would it be OK?
Currently, 'Module key' will create a group in OM
server called 'moodle', and, unless it is 'moodle'
the usage of OM activity (instance) as 'show
recordings' will not work ! all other functions
are OK, even recording, sharing .... and if we put
anything else other than 'moodle', the plugin will
create that group, but 'show recordings' will not
show any recordings.
So, as per your idea (which is very good and
practical) 'Module key' will keep being 'moodle'
in OM plugin configuration, however, when creating
an activity (instance), the teacher will have an
extra field to fill (Group), lets assume it will
be as course name, how it will reflect in room
tree of recordings? currently we move recordings
(after renaming them) to 'Group recordings' with
the name 'moodle' so that 'show recordings' can be
used. Can you please share your good thoughts :-)
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 08:02, Ali Alhaidary
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I assumed so, but it did not. Although
we have tens of recordings in private,
group and public in so many OM
instances, the list always shows 'no
recordings'.
Only recordings made by user entered from
Moodle plugin with same key will be listed
all those public, private etc. will not be
listed
True, but only for the creator in 'my' and
for group members in 'group' when in the room
of type 'conference' but non in the 'Show
recordings' unless Module key is moodle !
I don't understand this comment :(
I just have tested: recordings works as expected:
My steps:
1. add Activity
2. choose OM
3. fill `Room name`
4. select `Show Recording (select recording from
drop down to be shown instead of meeting)` as
`Room type`
5. select recording
6. save and display
Keeping in mind that:
- OM Data folder in out of OM
installation folder,
it doesn't matter
- Module key is not 'moodle'
it doesn't matter
- OM server is not on moodle server.
it doesn't matter
Ali
On 12/22/20 7:34 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
something like
1) you create Moodle room as usual
2) do recording
3) then create new OM activity with
type "Recording"
4) select recording you made on step 2)
5) save
Result: your users will see OM
recordings panel with this particular
recording and can watch it :)
sort of "share recording" to Moodle
users :)
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 20:19, Ali
Alhaidary <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
How to use room type 'Show Recording' ?
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