I'll make it less hideous and submit a patch this weekend, then :)

2011/11/2 Ashutosh Chauhan <[email protected]>

> Hey Jon,
>
> Your windowing udf will be very useful outside of this particular usecase.
> It will be great if you can contribute it to PiggyBank.
>
> Thanks,
> Ashutosh
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:44, Jonathan Coveney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Okie dokie. So first, let's clarify and simplify the problem a little,
> > especially to ensure that I know what is going on.
> >
> > Let's first just focus on a particular class. This is ok since presumably
> > each class is independent. Now, we have user_id, start_time, and end_time
> > (start_time+duration). If I understand correctly, a user_id should be
> > included up to end_time+30s, since this is a 30s moving window. As such,
> > we'll just ignore that side of things for now, because you can just
> > transform people's start times accordingly. Further, the assumption is
> that
> > for a given user_id, you will not have overlapping start and end
> > times...you can have multiple entries, ie "user 1, start 1, end 3; user
> 1,
> > start 5, end 7;" but you can't have them in this form: "user 1, start 1,
> > end 3; user 1, start 2, end 4."
> >
> > So we have simplified the question to this: given: user_id, start_time,
> > and end_time (which never overlap), how can I get a count of unique users
> > for every second? So now we will design a UDF to generate that output as
> a
> > bag of (time, # of people) pairs, for every second from min(start_time)
> to
> > max(end_time). The UDF will accept a bag sorted on the start time. Now,
> as
> > I write it it's going to be a simple evalfunc, but it should be an
> > accumulator. It's easy to make the transition.
> >
> > Here is what you do. Initialize a PriorityQueue. The natural ordering for
> > int and long is fine, as it will ensure that when we poll it, we'll get
> the
> > earliest end time, which is what we want.
> >
> > So step one is to pull the first tuple, and get the start_time and
> > end_time. The start time will set our time to start_time (which is
> > min(start_time) since it was sorted on start_time), and we add the
> end_time
> > to the priority queue. We have a counter "uniques" which we increment.
> >
> > Now, before we actually do increment, we grab the next tuple. Why do you
> > do this instead of go to the next end time? Because we don't know if
> > someone starts in between now and the next end time. So we grab the tuple
> > and get its start and end time. Now there are two cases.
> >
> > Case 1: the start time is less than the head of the priority queue, via a
> > peek. If this is the case, then we can safely increment up to the
> > start_time we just got, and then go from there. This is because it's
> > impossible for there to be a new end_time less than the start_time we
> just
> > got, because they are ordered by start_time and end_time>start_time. So
> we
> > add the new end_time, and then we increment our timer until we get to the
> > new start_time we just got, and add (timer,unique) at each step. When we
> > get to start_time, we unique++. Now we get the next tuple and repeat.
> >
> > Case 2: the start time comes after the head of the priority queue, via a
> > peek. If this is the case, then we need to increment up to the current
> > head, emitting (timer,unique). Then when we get to the time_value equal
> to
> > that end_time, we unique--, and check again if the start_time comes
> before
> > than the head of the priority queue. Until it does, we repeat step 2.
> Once
> > it does, we do step 1.
> >
> > I've attached a crude, untested UDF that does this. Buyer beware. But it
> > shows the general flow, and should be better than exploding the data (I
> > really hate exploding data like that unless it's absolutely necessary).
> >
> > To use, generate some data, then...
> >
> > register window.jar;
> > define window com.jcoveney.Window('30');
> > a = load 'data' using PigStorage(',') as (uid:long,start:long,end:long);
> > b = foreach (group a all) {
> >   ord = order a by start asc;
> >   generate flatten(window(ord));
> > }
> > dump b;
> >
> > to generate data, I first did just  a small subsample just to think about
> > it, then I did (in python)
> >
> > import random
> > f=open("data","w")
> > for i in range(0,1000000):
> >   v1=random.randint(1,10000000)
> >   v2=random.randint(1,10000000)
> >   start=min(v1,v2)
> >   stop=max(v1,v2)
> >   print >>f,"%i,%i,%i" % (i,start,stop)
> >
> > If this function is at all useful, I can clean it up and put in in the
> > piggybank. Let me know if the logic doesn't make sense, or if it isn't
> > quite what you had in mind.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > 2011/11/1 Marco Cadetg <[email protected]>
> >
> >> Thanks again for all your comments.
> >>
> >> Jonathan, would you mind to enlighten me on the way you would keep track
> >> of the
> >> people you need to "eject". I don't get the min heap based tuple...
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> -Marco
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jonathan Coveney <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your use case, and this depends on the
> >>> amount
> >>> of data, but you could consider something like this (to avoid exploding
> >>> the
> >>> data, which could perhaps be inavoidable but I hate resorting to that
> if
> >>> I
> >>> don't have to).
> >>>
> >>> a = foreach yourdata generate student_id, start_time,
> start_time+duration
> >>> as end_time, course;
> >>> b = group a by course;
> >>> c = foreach b {
> >>>  ord = order a by start_time;
> >>>  generate yourudf.process(ord);
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Here is generally what process could do. It would be an accumulator UDF
> >>> that expected tuples sorted on start_time. Now you basically need a way
> >>> to
> >>> know who the distinct users are. Now, since you want 30s windows, your
> >>> first window will presumably be 30s after the first start_time in your
> >>> data, and you would just tick ahead in 1s and write to a bag which
> would
> >>> have second, # of distinct student_ids. To know when to eject people,
> you
> >>> could have any number of data structures... perhaps a min heap based on
> >>> end_time, and of course instead of "ticking" ahead, you would grab a
> new
> >>> tuple (since this is the only thing that would change the state of the
> #
> >>> of
> >>> distinct ids), and then do all of the ticking ahead as you adjust the
> >>> heap
> >>> and write the seconds in between the current time pointer and the
> >>> start_time of the new tuple, making sure in each step to check against
> >>> the
> >>> min heap to eject any users that expired.
> >>>
> >>> That was a little rambly, I could quickly put together some more
> >>> reasonable
> >>> pseudocode if that would help. I think the general idea is clear
> >>> though...
> >>>
> >>> 2011/10/31 Guy Bayes <[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>> > ahh TV that explains it
> >>> >
> >>> > 12G data file is a bit too big for R unless you sample, not sure if
> >>> the use
> >>> > case is conducive to sampling?
> >>> >
> >>> > If it is, could sample it down and structure in pig/hadoop and then
> >>> load it
> >>> > into the analytical/visualization tool of choice...
> >>> >
> >>> > Guy
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Marco Cadetg <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > The data is not about students but about television ;) Regarding
> the
> >>> > size.
> >>> > > The raw input data size is about 150m although when I 'explode' the
> >>> > > timeseries
> >>> > > it will be around 80x bigger. I guess the average user duration
> will
> >>> be
> >>> > > around
> >>> > > 40 Minutes which means when sampling it at a 30s interval will
> >>> increase
> >>> > the
> >>> > > size by ~12GB.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I think that is a size which my hadoop cluster with five 8-core x
> >>> 8GB x
> >>> > 2TB
> >>> > > HD
> >>> > > should be able to cope with.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I don't know about R. Are you able to handle 12Gb
> >>> > > files well in R (off course it depends on your computer so assume
> an
> >>> > > average business computer e.g. 2-core 2GHz 4GB ram)?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Cheers
> >>> > > -Marco
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Guy Bayes <[email protected]>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > if it fits in R, it's trivial, draw a density plot or a
> histogram,
> >>> > about
> >>> > > > three lines of R code
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > why I was wondering about the data volume.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > His example is students attending classes, if  that is really the
> >>> data
> >>> > > hard
> >>> > > > to believe it's super huge?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Guy
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Norbert Burger <
> >>> > > [email protected]
> >>> > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > Perhaps another way to approach this problem is to visualize it
> >>> > > > > geometrically.  You have a long series of class session
> >>> instances,
> >>> > > where
> >>> > > > > each class session is like 1D line segment, beginning/stopping
> at
> >>> > some
> >>> > > > > start/end time.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > These segments naturally overlap, and I think the question
> you're
> >>> > > asking
> >>> > > > is
> >>> > > > > equivalent to finding the number of overlaps at every
> subsegment.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > To answer this, you want to first break every class session
> into
> >>> a
> >>> > full
> >>> > > > > list
> >>> > > > > of subsegments, where a subsegment is created by "breaking"
> each
> >>> > class
> >>> > > > > session/segment into multiple parts at the start/end point of
> any
> >>> > other
> >>> > > > > class session.  You can create this full set of subsegments in
> >>> one
> >>> > pass
> >>> > > > by
> >>> > > > > comparing pairwise (CROSS) each start/end point with your
> >>> original
> >>> > list
> >>> > > > of
> >>> > > > > class sessions.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Once you have the full list of "broken" segments, then a final
> >>> GROUP
> >>> > > > > BY/COUNT(*) will you give you the number of overlaps.  Seems
> like
> >>> > > > approach
> >>> > > > > would be faster than the previous approach if your class
> >>> sessions are
> >>> > > > very
> >>> > > > > long, or there are many overlaps.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Norbert
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Guy Bayes <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > how big is your dataset?
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Marco Cadetg <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Thanks Bill and Norbert that seems like what I was looking
> >>> for.
> >>> > > I'm a
> >>> > > > > bit
> >>> > > > > > > worried about
> >>> > > > > > > how much data/io this could create. But I'll see ;)
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Cheers
> >>> > > > > > > -Marco
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Norbert Burger <
> >>> > > > > > [email protected]
> >>> > > > > > > >wrote:
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > In case what you're looking for is an analysis over the
> >>> full
> >>> > > > learning
> >>> > > > > > > > duration, and not just the start interval, then one
> further
> >>> > > insight
> >>> > > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > that each original record can be transformed into a
> >>> sequence of
> >>> > > > > > > > records, where the size of the sequence corresponds to
> the
> >>> > > session
> >>> > > > > > > > duration.  In other words, you can use a UDF to "explode"
> >>> the
> >>> > > > > original
> >>> > > > > > > > record:
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708213,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > into:
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708190,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708220,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708250,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708280,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708310,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708340,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708370,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708400,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708430,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708460,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708490,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708520,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708550,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708580,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708610,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708640,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708670,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708700,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > and then use Bill's suggestion to group by course,
> >>> interval.
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > Norbert
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Bill Graham <
> >>> > > > [email protected]>
> >>> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > You can pass your time to a udf that rounds it down to
> >>> the
> >>> > > > nearest
> >>> > > > > 30
> >>> > > > > > > > second
> >>> > > > > > > > > interval and then group by course, interval to get
> >>> counts for
> >>> > > > each
> >>> > > > > > > > course,
> >>> > > > > > > > > interval.
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 27, 2011, Marco Cadetg <
> >>> > [email protected]>
> >>> > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > >> I have a problem where I don't know how or if pig is
> >>> even
> >>> > > > suitable
> >>> > > > > > to
> >>> > > > > > > > > solve
> >>> > > > > > > > >> it.
> >>> > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > >> I have a schema like this:
> >>> > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > >> student-id,student-name,start-time,duration,course
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708213,500,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 2,ralf,1319708111,112,english
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 3,greg,1319708321,333,french
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 4,diva,1319708444,80,english
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 5,susanne,1319708123,2000,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708564,500,french
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 2,ralf,1319708789,123,french
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 7,fred,1319708213,5675,french
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 8,laura,1319708233,123,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 10,sab,1319708999,777,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 11,fibo,1319708789,565,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 6,dan,1319708456,50,english
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 9,marco,1319708123,60,english
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 12,bo,1319708456,345,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708789,673,math
> >>> > > > > > > > >> ...
> >>> > > > > > > > >> ...
> >>> > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > >> I would like to retrieve a graph (interpolation) over
> >>> time
> >>> > > > grouped
> >>> > > > > > by
> >>> > > > > > > > >> course. Meaning how many students are learning for a
> >>> course
> >>> > > > based
> >>> > > > > on
> >>> > > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > > 30
> >>> > > > > > > > >> sec interval.
> >>> > > > > > > > >> The grouping by course is easy but from there I've no
> >>> clue
> >>> > > how I
> >>> > > > > > would
> >>> > > > > > > > >> achieve the rest. I guess the rest needs to be
> achieved
> >>> via
> >>> > > some
> >>> > > > > UDF
> >>> > > > > > > > >> or is there any way how to this in pig? I often think
> >>> that I
> >>> > > > need
> >>> > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > "for
> >>> > > > > > > > >> loop" or something similar in pig.
> >>> > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your help!
> >>> > > > > > > > >> -Marco
> >>> > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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