Just a heads up: I have a cleaner version (with tests!) here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2364

If you're still using this, I heavily suggest using the new version.

2011/11/4 Marco Cadetg <[email protected]>

> Yeha, that is awesome. Thank you very much Jonathan.
> -Marco
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Jonathan Coveney <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'll make it less hideous and submit a patch this weekend, then :)
> >
> > 2011/11/2 Ashutosh Chauhan <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Hey Jon,
> > >
> > > Your windowing udf will be very useful outside of this particular
> > usecase.
> > > It will be great if you can contribute it to PiggyBank.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ashutosh
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:44, Jonathan Coveney <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okie dokie. So first, let's clarify and simplify the problem a
> little,
> > > > especially to ensure that I know what is going on.
> > > >
> > > > Let's first just focus on a particular class. This is ok since
> > presumably
> > > > each class is independent. Now, we have user_id, start_time, and
> > end_time
> > > > (start_time+duration). If I understand correctly, a user_id should be
> > > > included up to end_time+30s, since this is a 30s moving window. As
> > such,
> > > > we'll just ignore that side of things for now, because you can just
> > > > transform people's start times accordingly. Further, the assumption
> is
> > > that
> > > > for a given user_id, you will not have overlapping start and end
> > > > times...you can have multiple entries, ie "user 1, start 1, end 3;
> user
> > > 1,
> > > > start 5, end 7;" but you can't have them in this form: "user 1, start
> > 1,
> > > > end 3; user 1, start 2, end 4."
> > > >
> > > > So we have simplified the question to this: given: user_id,
> start_time,
> > > > and end_time (which never overlap), how can I get a count of unique
> > users
> > > > for every second? So now we will design a UDF to generate that output
> > as
> > > a
> > > > bag of (time, # of people) pairs, for every second from
> min(start_time)
> > > to
> > > > max(end_time). The UDF will accept a bag sorted on the start time.
> Now,
> > > as
> > > > I write it it's going to be a simple evalfunc, but it should be an
> > > > accumulator. It's easy to make the transition.
> > > >
> > > > Here is what you do. Initialize a PriorityQueue. The natural ordering
> > for
> > > > int and long is fine, as it will ensure that when we poll it, we'll
> get
> > > the
> > > > earliest end time, which is what we want.
> > > >
> > > > So step one is to pull the first tuple, and get the start_time and
> > > > end_time. The start time will set our time to start_time (which is
> > > > min(start_time) since it was sorted on start_time), and we add the
> > > end_time
> > > > to the priority queue. We have a counter "uniques" which we
> increment.
> > > >
> > > > Now, before we actually do increment, we grab the next tuple. Why do
> > you
> > > > do this instead of go to the next end time? Because we don't know if
> > > > someone starts in between now and the next end time. So we grab the
> > tuple
> > > > and get its start and end time. Now there are two cases.
> > > >
> > > > Case 1: the start time is less than the head of the priority queue,
> > via a
> > > > peek. If this is the case, then we can safely increment up to the
> > > > start_time we just got, and then go from there. This is because it's
> > > > impossible for there to be a new end_time less than the start_time we
> > > just
> > > > got, because they are ordered by start_time and end_time>start_time.
> So
> > > we
> > > > add the new end_time, and then we increment our timer until we get to
> > the
> > > > new start_time we just got, and add (timer,unique) at each step. When
> > we
> > > > get to start_time, we unique++. Now we get the next tuple and repeat.
> > > >
> > > > Case 2: the start time comes after the head of the priority queue,
> via
> > a
> > > > peek. If this is the case, then we need to increment up to the
> current
> > > > head, emitting (timer,unique). Then when we get to the time_value
> equal
> > > to
> > > > that end_time, we unique--, and check again if the start_time comes
> > > before
> > > > than the head of the priority queue. Until it does, we repeat step 2.
> > > Once
> > > > it does, we do step 1.
> > > >
> > > > I've attached a crude, untested UDF that does this. Buyer beware. But
> > it
> > > > shows the general flow, and should be better than exploding the data
> (I
> > > > really hate exploding data like that unless it's absolutely
> necessary).
> > > >
> > > > To use, generate some data, then...
> > > >
> > > > register window.jar;
> > > > define window com.jcoveney.Window('30');
> > > > a = load 'data' using PigStorage(',') as
> > (uid:long,start:long,end:long);
> > > > b = foreach (group a all) {
> > > >   ord = order a by start asc;
> > > >   generate flatten(window(ord));
> > > > }
> > > > dump b;
> > > >
> > > > to generate data, I first did just  a small subsample just to think
> > about
> > > > it, then I did (in python)
> > > >
> > > > import random
> > > > f=open("data","w")
> > > > for i in range(0,1000000):
> > > >   v1=random.randint(1,10000000)
> > > >   v2=random.randint(1,10000000)
> > > >   start=min(v1,v2)
> > > >   stop=max(v1,v2)
> > > >   print >>f,"%i,%i,%i" % (i,start,stop)
> > > >
> > > > If this function is at all useful, I can clean it up and put in in
> the
> > > > piggybank. Let me know if the logic doesn't make sense, or if it
> isn't
> > > > quite what you had in mind.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2011/11/1 Marco Cadetg <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks again for all your comments.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jonathan, would you mind to enlighten me on the way you would keep
> > track
> > > >> of the
> > > >> people you need to "eject". I don't get the min heap based tuple...
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> -Marco
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your use case, and this depends on the
> > > >>> amount
> > > >>> of data, but you could consider something like this (to avoid
> > exploding
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> data, which could perhaps be inavoidable but I hate resorting to
> that
> > > if
> > > >>> I
> > > >>> don't have to).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> a = foreach yourdata generate student_id, start_time,
> > > start_time+duration
> > > >>> as end_time, course;
> > > >>> b = group a by course;
> > > >>> c = foreach b {
> > > >>>  ord = order a by start_time;
> > > >>>  generate yourudf.process(ord);
> > > >>> }
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is generally what process could do. It would be an accumulator
> > UDF
> > > >>> that expected tuples sorted on start_time. Now you basically need a
> > way
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> know who the distinct users are. Now, since you want 30s windows,
> > your
> > > >>> first window will presumably be 30s after the first start_time in
> > your
> > > >>> data, and you would just tick ahead in 1s and write to a bag which
> > > would
> > > >>> have second, # of distinct student_ids. To know when to eject
> people,
> > > you
> > > >>> could have any number of data structures... perhaps a min heap
> based
> > on
> > > >>> end_time, and of course instead of "ticking" ahead, you would grab
> a
> > > new
> > > >>> tuple (since this is the only thing that would change the state of
> > the
> > > #
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> distinct ids), and then do all of the ticking ahead as you adjust
> the
> > > >>> heap
> > > >>> and write the seconds in between the current time pointer and the
> > > >>> start_time of the new tuple, making sure in each step to check
> > against
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> min heap to eject any users that expired.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That was a little rambly, I could quickly put together some more
> > > >>> reasonable
> > > >>> pseudocode if that would help. I think the general idea is clear
> > > >>> though...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2011/10/31 Guy Bayes <[email protected]>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > ahh TV that explains it
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 12G data file is a bit too big for R unless you sample, not sure
> if
> > > >>> the use
> > > >>> > case is conducive to sampling?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > If it is, could sample it down and structure in pig/hadoop and
> then
> > > >>> load it
> > > >>> > into the analytical/visualization tool of choice...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Guy
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Marco Cadetg <[email protected]>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > The data is not about students but about television ;)
> Regarding
> > > the
> > > >>> > size.
> > > >>> > > The raw input data size is about 150m although when I 'explode'
> > the
> > > >>> > > timeseries
> > > >>> > > it will be around 80x bigger. I guess the average user duration
> > > will
> > > >>> be
> > > >>> > > around
> > > >>> > > 40 Minutes which means when sampling it at a 30s interval will
> > > >>> increase
> > > >>> > the
> > > >>> > > size by ~12GB.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > I think that is a size which my hadoop cluster with five
> 8-core x
> > > >>> 8GB x
> > > >>> > 2TB
> > > >>> > > HD
> > > >>> > > should be able to cope with.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > I don't know about R. Are you able to handle 12Gb
> > > >>> > > files well in R (off course it depends on your computer so
> assume
> > > an
> > > >>> > > average business computer e.g. 2-core 2GHz 4GB ram)?
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Cheers
> > > >>> > > -Marco
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Guy Bayes <
> > [email protected]>
> > > >>> > wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > if it fits in R, it's trivial, draw a density plot or a
> > > histogram,
> > > >>> > about
> > > >>> > > > three lines of R code
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > why I was wondering about the data volume.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > His example is students attending classes, if  that is really
> > the
> > > >>> data
> > > >>> > > hard
> > > >>> > > > to believe it's super huge?
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Guy
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Norbert Burger <
> > > >>> > > [email protected]
> > > >>> > > > >wrote:
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Perhaps another way to approach this problem is to
> visualize
> > it
> > > >>> > > > > geometrically.  You have a long series of class session
> > > >>> instances,
> > > >>> > > where
> > > >>> > > > > each class session is like 1D line segment,
> > beginning/stopping
> > > at
> > > >>> > some
> > > >>> > > > > start/end time.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > These segments naturally overlap, and I think the question
> > > you're
> > > >>> > > asking
> > > >>> > > > is
> > > >>> > > > > equivalent to finding the number of overlaps at every
> > > subsegment.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > To answer this, you want to first break every class session
> > > into
> > > >>> a
> > > >>> > full
> > > >>> > > > > list
> > > >>> > > > > of subsegments, where a subsegment is created by "breaking"
> > > each
> > > >>> > class
> > > >>> > > > > session/segment into multiple parts at the start/end point
> of
> > > any
> > > >>> > other
> > > >>> > > > > class session.  You can create this full set of subsegments
> > in
> > > >>> one
> > > >>> > pass
> > > >>> > > > by
> > > >>> > > > > comparing pairwise (CROSS) each start/end point with your
> > > >>> original
> > > >>> > list
> > > >>> > > > of
> > > >>> > > > > class sessions.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Once you have the full list of "broken" segments, then a
> > final
> > > >>> GROUP
> > > >>> > > > > BY/COUNT(*) will you give you the number of overlaps.
>  Seems
> > > like
> > > >>> > > > approach
> > > >>> > > > > would be faster than the previous approach if your class
> > > >>> sessions are
> > > >>> > > > very
> > > >>> > > > > long, or there are many overlaps.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Norbert
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Guy Bayes <
> > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > how big is your dataset?
> > > >>> > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Marco Cadetg <
> > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > Thanks Bill and Norbert that seems like what I was
> > looking
> > > >>> for.
> > > >>> > > I'm a
> > > >>> > > > > bit
> > > >>> > > > > > > worried about
> > > >>> > > > > > > how much data/io this could create. But I'll see ;)
> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > >>> > > > > > > -Marco
> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Norbert Burger <
> > > >>> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > >>> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > In case what you're looking for is an analysis over
> the
> > > >>> full
> > > >>> > > > learning
> > > >>> > > > > > > > duration, and not just the start interval, then one
> > > further
> > > >>> > > insight
> > > >>> > > > > is
> > > >>> > > > > > > > that each original record can be transformed into a
> > > >>> sequence of
> > > >>> > > > > > > > records, where the size of the sequence corresponds
> to
> > > the
> > > >>> > > session
> > > >>> > > > > > > > duration.  In other words, you can use a UDF to
> > "explode"
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> > > > > original
> > > >>> > > > > > > > record:
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708213,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > into:
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708190,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708220,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708250,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708280,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708310,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708340,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708370,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708400,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708430,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708460,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708490,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708520,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708550,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708580,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708610,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708640,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708670,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 1,marco,1319708700,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > and then use Bill's suggestion to group by course,
> > > >>> interval.
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > Norbert
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Bill Graham <
> > > >>> > > > [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > > > > > You can pass your time to a udf that rounds it down
> > to
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> > > > nearest
> > > >>> > > > > 30
> > > >>> > > > > > > > second
> > > >>> > > > > > > > > interval and then group by course, interval to get
> > > >>> counts for
> > > >>> > > > each
> > > >>> > > > > > > > course,
> > > >>> > > > > > > > > interval.
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 27, 2011, Marco Cadetg <
> > > >>> > [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> I have a problem where I don't know how or if pig
> is
> > > >>> even
> > > >>> > > > suitable
> > > >>> > > > > > to
> > > >>> > > > > > > > > solve
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> it.
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> I have a schema like this:
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> student-id,student-name,start-time,duration,course
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708213,500,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 2,ralf,1319708111,112,english
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 3,greg,1319708321,333,french
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 4,diva,1319708444,80,english
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 5,susanne,1319708123,2000,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708564,500,french
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 2,ralf,1319708789,123,french
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 7,fred,1319708213,5675,french
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 8,laura,1319708233,123,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 10,sab,1319708999,777,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 11,fibo,1319708789,565,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 6,dan,1319708456,50,english
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 9,marco,1319708123,60,english
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 12,bo,1319708456,345,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 1,marco,1319708789,673,math
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> ...
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> ...
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> I would like to retrieve a graph (interpolation)
> > over
> > > >>> time
> > > >>> > > > grouped
> > > >>> > > > > > by
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> course. Meaning how many students are learning
> for a
> > > >>> course
> > > >>> > > > based
> > > >>> > > > > on
> > > >>> > > > > > a
> > > >>> > > > > > > > 30
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> sec interval.
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> The grouping by course is easy but from there I've
> > no
> > > >>> clue
> > > >>> > > how I
> > > >>> > > > > > would
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> achieve the rest. I guess the rest needs to be
> > > achieved
> > > >>> via
> > > >>> > > some
> > > >>> > > > > UDF
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> or is there any way how to this in pig? I often
> > think
> > > >>> that I
> > > >>> > > > need
> > > >>> > > > > a
> > > >>> > > > > > > "for
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> loop" or something similar in pig.
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your help!
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> -Marco
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
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