"Phil the contractor" was the first of many in IT industry. I have a long list.
This guy refers to multimillion real life blunders which I describe in detail as [lots of words]. What more can I say (: On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 18:33 Dave Newton, <davelnew...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Zahid Rahman <zahidr1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > What developers do isn't testing. > > > > [Bottom up programmer]. > > > > This is demonstrably incorrect (trivially). It doesn't even make sense. > > AFAIC the burden of proof is on you, because developers do valid testing > all the time. > > (And yes, some developers do some invalid testing some of the time.) > > I would challenge the supposition that we didn't test the pacemaker (or the > fuel pump, although it wasn't as extreme, I'd say) within inches of its > life, or the payment processing code (ACH stuff pretty much has to work), > or any number of other projects. You appear to confuse different layers of > testing, all of which are required (to varying degrees), with "testing", > which is not a single thing. You're making a lot of assumptions based on > your specific experience--which is fine, but it might be a good idea to > take a small step back and recognize that your experience is not everyone's > experience, what you're calling "testing" is in fact a field unto itself, > and that maybe some additional experience might broaden your horizons. > > Good luck! > > d. >