"Phil the contractor" was the first of many in IT industry. I have a long
list.

This guy refers to multimillion real life blunders which I describe in
detail as [lots of words].

What more can I say  (:





On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 18:33 Dave Newton, <davelnew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Zahid Rahman <zahidr1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What developers do isn't testing.
> >
> > [Bottom up programmer].
> >
>
> This is demonstrably incorrect (trivially). It doesn't even make sense.
>
> AFAIC the burden of proof is on you, because developers do valid testing
> all the time.
>
> (And yes, some developers do some invalid testing some of the time.)
>
> I would challenge the supposition that we didn't test the pacemaker (or the
> fuel pump, although it wasn't as extreme, I'd say) within inches of its
> life, or the payment processing code (ACH stuff pretty much has to work),
> or any number of other projects. You appear to confuse different layers of
> testing, all of which are required (to varying degrees), with "testing",
> which is not a single thing. You're making a lot of assumptions based on
> your specific experience--which is fine, but it might be a good idea to
> take a small step back and recognize that your experience is not everyone's
> experience, what you're calling "testing" is in fact a field unto itself,
> and that maybe some additional experience might broaden your horizons.
>
> Good luck!
>
> d.
>

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