--- Jim Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leandro Melo
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:48 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: ActionForm with all application
> attributes
> > 
> > 
> > Jim, all the code i`m talking about is inside a
> Base
> > Action Form. It seems the you`re thinking that my
> code
> > is inside a action, aren`t you?? Maybe a
> > misundertanding, maybe mine, maybe yours.
> 
> No, I understood you to have it in a Base Action.
> 
> > 
> > So, i agree with some of your comments, but not on
> all
> > of thems. In fact, i`m gonna to take a look about
> this
> > customized classes to use with validator.
> 
> Another trick, is to use the same AcitonForm class,
> but call it different things.  Since validator will
> work by name, and not by class you can customize
> based on that alone.  You can also validate a form
> by action mapping, rather then by form name.


Would you mind showing an example on how to do that?





> >  --- Jim Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Leandro Melo
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:48 PM
> > > > To: struts jakarta
> > > > Subject: ActionForm with all application
> > > attributes
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi, 
> > > > i sent this question yesterday, but as nowbody
> > > > answered me, i trying it again with a more
> > > > sifinificant title (sorry for the re-post).
> > > > Also, if i'm doing something terrible, i'd
> like to
> > > > know.
> > > > 
> > > > Keeping in mind that more than one action form
> may
> > > > have to validate and/or reset the same fields,
> i
> > > > decided to this.
> > > >  
> > > > I already have a MyBaseActionForm which
> > > incorporates
> > > > all
> > > > some methods that i need in my application. I
> > > don't
> > > > use Validator, as i prefer to use java classes
> for
> > > > validation  ligth business logic.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, i decided to add ALL fileds (setters and
> > > > getters)
> > > > i have in my application as private members of
> > > this
> > > > MyBaseActionForm.
> > > > 
> > > > Then i created classes WebValidation and
> WebReset.
> > > > This classes have validate methods for all
> fields
> > > in
> > > > my application. These classes can access the
> > > fields
> > > > they need for each method because all my
> action
> > > > forms
> > > > extend the MyBaseActionForm, thus this
> > > WebValidation
> > > > and WebReset classes can call the setters and
> > > > getters
> > > > of an y action form to validate with the light
> > > > business logic i need.
> > > > 
> > > > I got with this approach a centralized way and
> > > > "component" responsible for the validation.
> All my
> > > > action forms delegate the validate and reset
> > > methods
> > > > to the classes i mentioned.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to briefly describe some nice
> > > > benefits of this approach.
> > > > 
> > > > - With this approach i definetly solve my
> earlier
> > > > problem that i posted on question "1:N
> > > relationships -
> > > > ActionForm x DTOs".
> > > 
> > > Didn't see this post, but yes there could be 1
> to
> > > many between ActinForm and DTO's, and this is
> not a
> > > problem.  ActionForms directly represent what is
> on
> > > the screen, while DTO's represent your data. 
> You
> > > have a 1-to-many relationship between screens
> and
> > > tables.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > - With this approach i got no coupling between
> my
> > > > ActionForm and DTOs.
> > > 
> > > What do you mean by coupling?  You still have to
> > > transfer data to and from the DTO.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > - With this approach i have a centralized
> validate
> > > > unit. It's very usual to have more than 1
> action
> > > form
> > > > validating the same field, what may causes
> some
> > > > duplication and a harder maintenance. A
> central
> > > unit
> > > > of validation and resetting suits this problem
> > > very
> > > > well.
> > > 
> > > The strtus validate stuff is centralized, and
> easier
> > > to configure.  Doing it all in one class, means
> that
> > > at some point your going to have logic to handle
> > > special cases.... The more of these you have hte
> > > more complex the logic... Complex logic is
> directly
> > > related to the stability of your code.
> > > In addition I don't have to code the validations
> > > myself.  Just specify what I want validated and
> I'm
> > > done.  You could do the same thing, however you
> > > still have to glue it all together.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > - With this approach i can perform light
> business
> > > > validation that must be done in java code. So,
> for
> > > one
> > > > or more situation i could access some util
> classes
> > > > that do some validation for me.
> > > 
> > > You can do this with custom validation classes
> and
> > > still achieve centralizations.  Depending on
> what
> > > you mean by light business validation.  I like
> > > consistency in where things are.  Business rules
> in
> > > business layer, and validation in the view tier.
>  A
> > > newcomer to the app would have to guess (yeah,
> sure
> > > they'll ask, maybe) where the code is supposed
> to
> > > go.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > - With this approach i have very small action
> > > forms
> > > > that basically has a validate and reset
> methods
> > > that
> > > > just delegate to the WebValidation and
> WebReset
> > > > classes.
> > > 
> > > With the standard struts approach I have even
> > > smaller action classes.... no validate or reset
> > > methods.
> > > 
> > > > 
> 
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