On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:59:26 -0700, Michael McGrady
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> Rob Evans wrote:
> 
> >Could be. I for one am still trying to nail down the issues. Why is
> >having a single WebApp that utilizes Inversion of Control and plugins
> >better than just having several webapps that use the same UI libraries
> >and abide by the same standards? From experience, I know that this has
> >not worked well for large teams, but I'm not I can clearly articulate
> >why, yet.
> >
> >
> I agree totally.  Measure twice, cut once.  This may take ten measures.
> 
> >I appreciate your interest and I'm flattered that you think this is a
> >good idea. Before we get to far down the road I'd like to surface more
> >of the problems and understand what it is we're talking about a little
> >more.
> >
> 
> I could not agree, again, more.  In the larger picture, you have to make
> sure your plans include eventual integration with IDEs.  However, the
> biggest thing with component programming, I think, is to promote reuse
> by promoting the survival of the fittest plugin, which means creating a
> structure where anyone can plug in as deeply as can possibly be built
> into the struture.  I do think that Struts' basic, core, architecture is
> a good, excellent, idea for a kernel.  I am sure that Craig would have
> some thoughts about how he might do something different, if anything, at
> the core.  If some direction from people with a larger perspective (like
> Craig and the other brigher lights in this area) were to be applied to a
> sort of online discussion of a wish list for a component framework core,
> that would be great.  I would especially be interested myself in what
> Halloway would have to say.  I think I am going to try and tweak his
> interest enough to get his thoughts on your notion.

It sounds like we are on the same page regarding the nature of the
solution i.e. we're after something that looks like components. I'm
sure Craig and Halloway will have something to say about this if you
can get their attention.

I'm not sure that in the end a full blown component model for webapp
is necessary. Do we really need to start/stop/reload webapp
contributions? Is it even possible to reload a contribution without
bouncing the webapp. Maybe, I don't know. Most of the light weight
containers don't bother with hotdeployment and instead focus on the
IOC/Dependancy Injection. Perhaps, this would be a good place to
start?

I'm tempted to send an email to one of the eclipse lists and see what
they think.

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> Michael McGrady
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