>From what I've seen of JSF, I don't think it's that bad. I agree with Craig in that struts strength is as a controller framework and that technology like JSF, or velocity or whatever should be used at the display end.
If it's a matter of discussion I'm one for JSF, those who I know don't like it complain mainly about current support and shale (or whatever the new version is ) is at least a year or two away. Plenty of time for JSF to gather some steam. On the broader issues, any proposal to improve on JAAS and Flow Control are exactly what need to be discussed. Zoran > At 4:46 PM -0600 11/8/04, Vic (Vinny) Cekvenich wrote: >> Tak, just so you know, source is here: >> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/trunk >> >> (of course I am unhappy about JSF part ) > > Why? It's not like Shale is carved in stone yet. (er... no pun > intended). Now is the time for people who are interested in a new > version of Struts to talk about it. Craig is putting something out > there. He has a clear idea which benefits from a relationship to the > JSF apis. A lot of people have hesitated or outright complained > (myself included), but no one has yet said much about why JSF is bad. > More to the point, critics should either explain how the features > Craig delegates to the JSF API could be a delivered in some > alternative way, or why those features aren't important enough to > merit a tie to JSF. > > And as for people's questions about "when?" Well, these discussions > have to happen, and use cases need to be conceived, and code has to > be written, and then it has to be tested, and everyone who is > interested is invited to join in on any and all of that... and when > all that has happened, it will be released, and unless someone steps > up to sponsor the development and get a bunch of people focused on it > as a day job, then I doubt you'll see anyone hazarding a guess about > a time frame any time soon. > > Joe --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
