Hi Ted, sorry that i do not agree with you. I know very well which books there are written about struts, as i read them all, i thin (at least that ones in english). Furthermore i did develop some applications using struts myself in different projects, some of them not so small (one about 10000 man-days). So you address the wrong person with your mail. still i think it is not the worst think writing that it is in fact in use in very big applications, because i know that there are still a lot of decision-makers around that do not trust OpenSource products in their productive environments. Anyway, maybe i was not really clear in my last mail, this is just one theme of the article (in fact, it is not the most important one), and i thought it would be a good idea to refer to a link with a list of applications. Maybe you will happen to read the article, than I am looking forward to hear your fair comment on it. ;o)
Regards Axel > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. November 2004 16:21 > An: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: Are there Struts Applications in real life out there? > > > LOL. :) > > Yes, over the last two years at least nineteen different > publishers each decided to publish books about Struts, surely > selling over a hundred thousand copies combined -- but no one > is actually using it in production. :) > > You might as well ask whether the moon is really made of > green cheese :) > > Once upon a time, we had a list of thirty or so public > applications, but it was too much work to maintain, and we > had long since past the point where we had something to prove. > > I've met with teams for some of the the largest corporations > in world, who I know for a fact are using Struts in > production. Am I going to names names here. No. Why? Because > it's a security issue for anyone to reveal what platform they > are using. The bigger the site, the bigger the issue. > > I can tell you that I just got back from a users group > meeting in Boston. The New England JUG is the second largest > in the world (behind Tokyo). The topic was Struts, and it was > standing room only. When I asked who had Struts applications > in production, nearly everyone raised their hands. People > tell me all the time that Struts is still the platform of > choice for major corporations. I've also heard from more than > one source that it's a favorite among Department of Defense > contractors. The lifecycles for a DoD contracts are very > long, and these contractors won't be taking Struts out of > production any time soon. > > The article sounds like "yellow" journalism to me -- designed > for "shock" value only. > > -Ted. > > On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:45:06 +0100, Stahlhut, Axel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > there will be an article in a german magazine in the near future > > which covers the theme: "Is struts really in use in real > > applications". > > > > To prove that it is indeed in usage in more than one running > > project, i wrote a topic in a struts user forum (which runs on my > > server and is available for general usage, so feel free to use it > > for discussion, best practises and so on). > > > > If you developed or know an application using struts as mvc > > framework (also if just in parts) please feel free to enter a reply > > there with a short description of the application and as possible > > an URL. > > > > The URL of the topic is: > > http://www.objectstore.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5#5 > > > > Regards > > Axel Stahlhut > > > > PS: If somebody knows a URL with al list of applications, please > > send them to me. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
