hehe... I'm lucky - i work for a small company, and as far as management is concerned open-source=free and free=good so through the power of transativity open-source=good and thats as far as any concern goes...
We've built several big apps using struts - all have been intranet applications so none available on the internet (some for the NHS). Not to say we havnt encountered any resistance to open source from our clients - but this is normally directed at linux or tomcat - struts gets off lightly as you can hide it with cunning wording ie use phrases like 'a java library' and not 'based on the struts framework'. Daniel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 November 2004 18:02 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: Are there Struts Applications in real life out there? > > > We are really all just a bunch of kids having fun and there is no > really real real use of Struts at all. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! LOL > > Sometimes people seem to lose a grip on reality. > > Jack > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:20:41 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LOL. :) > > > > Yes, over the last two years at least nineteen different > publishers each decided to publish books about Struts, surely > selling over a hundred thousand copies combined -- but no one is > actually using it in production. :) > > > > You might as well ask whether the moon is really made of green cheese :) > > > > Once upon a time, we had a list of thirty or so public > applications, but it was too much work to maintain, and we had > long since past the point where we had something to prove. > > > > I've met with teams for some of the the largest corporations in > world, who I know for a fact are using Struts in production. Am I > going to names names here. No. Why? Because it's a security issue > for anyone to reveal what platform they are using. The bigger the > site, the bigger the issue. > > > > I can tell you that I just got back from a users group meeting > in Boston. The New England JUG is the second largest in the world > (behind Tokyo). The topic was Struts, and it was standing room > only. When I asked who had Struts applications in production, > nearly everyone raised their hands. People tell me all the time > that Struts is still the platform of choice for major > corporations. I've also heard from more than one source that it's > a favorite among Department of Defense contractors. The > lifecycles for a DoD contracts are very long, and these > contractors won't be taking Struts out of production any time soon. > > > > The article sounds like "yellow" journalism to me -- designed > for "shock" value only. > > > > -Ted. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:45:06 +0100, Stahlhut, Axel wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > there will be an article in a german magazine in the near future > > > which covers the theme: "Is struts really in use in real > > > applications". > > > > > > To prove that it is indeed in usage in more than one running > > > project, i wrote a topic in a struts user forum (which runs on my > > > server and is available for general usage, so feel free to use it > > > for discussion, best practises and so on). > > > > > > If you developed or know an application using struts as mvc > > > framework (also if just in parts) please feel free to enter a reply > > > there with a short description of the application and as possible > > > an URL. > > > > > > The URL of the topic is: > > > http://www.objectstore.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5#5 > > > > > > Regards > > > Axel Stahlhut > > > > > > PS: If somebody knows a URL with al list of applications, please > > > send them to me. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." > > ~Native Proverb~ > > "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to > be crows." > > ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]