hehe...

I'm lucky - i work for a small company, and as far as management is
concerned open-source=free and free=good so through the power of
transativity open-source=good and thats as far as any concern goes...

We've built several big apps using struts - all have been intranet
applications so none available on the internet (some for the NHS).

Not to say we havnt encountered any resistance to open source from our
clients - but this is normally directed at linux or tomcat - struts gets off
lightly as you can hide it with cunning wording ie use phrases like 'a java
library' and not 'based on the struts framework'.

Daniel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 November 2004 18:02
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Are there Struts Applications in real life out there?
>
>
> We are really all just a bunch of kids having fun and there is no
> really real real use of Struts at all.  Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!  LOL
>
> Sometimes people seem to lose a grip on reality.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:20:41 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > LOL. :)
> >
> > Yes, over the last two years at least nineteen different
> publishers each decided to publish books about Struts, surely
> selling over a hundred thousand copies combined -- but no one is
> actually using it in production. :)
> >
> > You might as well ask whether the moon is really made of green cheese :)
> >
> > Once upon a time, we had a list of thirty or so public
> applications, but it was too much work to maintain, and we had
> long since past the point where we had something to prove.
> >
> > I've met with teams for some of the the largest corporations in
> world, who I know for a fact are using Struts in production. Am I
> going to names names here. No. Why? Because it's a security issue
> for anyone to reveal what platform they are using. The bigger the
> site, the bigger the issue.
> >
> > I can tell you that I just got back from a users group meeting
> in Boston. The New England JUG is the second largest in the world
> (behind Tokyo). The topic was Struts, and it was standing room
> only. When I asked who had Struts applications in production,
> nearly everyone raised their hands. People tell me all the time
> that Struts is still the platform of choice for major
> corporations. I've also heard from more than one source that it's
> a favorite among Department of Defense contractors. The
> lifecycles for a DoD contracts are very long, and these
> contractors won't be taking Struts out of production any time soon.
> >
> > The article sounds like "yellow" journalism to me -- designed
> for "shock" value only.
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:45:06 +0100, Stahlhut, Axel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > there will be an article in a german magazine in the near future
> > > which covers the theme: "Is struts really in use in real
> > > applications".
> > >
> > > To prove that it is indeed in usage in more than one running
> > > project, i wrote a topic in a struts user forum (which runs on my
> > > server and is available for general usage, so feel free to use it
> > > for discussion, best practises and so on).
> > >
> > > If you developed or know an application using struts as mvc
> > > framework (also if just in parts) please feel free to enter a reply
> > > there with a short description of the application and as possible
> > > an URL.
> > >
> > > The URL of the topic is:
> > > http://www.objectstore.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5#5
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Axel Stahlhut
> > >
> > > PS: If somebody knows a URL with al list of applications, please
> > > send them to me.
> >
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> ~Native Proverb~
>
> "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to
> be crows."
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