I guess asking what the vote is does give good reason for this. I like you so much Vic that it would be hard to fault you. But, I am surprised that a mere question about the vote could engender this sort of thing. Interesting. I am really interested in JERICHO. What SHALE does is not important to me except insofar as that has some impact on JERICHO. There could be a million projects for all I care.
Jack On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:31:55 -0600, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope you think this is funny Jack, sometimes I amuse myself: > > I think the shortest answer is that anyone un-happy (with multiple > projects?) can: A. fork any friendly license like ASF and refactor under > the terms of license, maintain the source code or see if they can > develop a user community, B: use another non Struts project that they > like better. > > Who cares what the votes are, if any, and who cares if they have no time > to report on everything. The more projects the better, let Darwin > decide. Right now Struts has a large % production market share, so > unlikley that anything bad could happen. I used Struts when it was not > #1, I don't care much for "popular" opinion, I use my own analysis. (A > good read is chapter on lemings by Waren Buffet book). > What was that platform where they tell us the "ONE" true way and their > marketed "ONE" direction. Who knows where the market will go. > > I have a request for the comitters: "What direction will the stock > market go, and please send me a privately the ONE stocks that will be > largest % mover for the coming week every Monday before the market opens.". > This would make me a happier Struts user and would keep Struts in good > light in my eyes. If you don't do that, I will think less of you the > developers, and I say ASF should not let you comit any more code as > pumishment for not making me happy. You OWE me that, for the privilage > of me linking to your jars. > Else I will imeditley start using another MVC and tell all my friend to > do the same! ;-) > > Seriously gang, thanks for making it easy for us to have sucess full > proejct. Thanks for all the Struts modules and your code donations to > the community. Source code = good. > > .V > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > >Thanks for the answer. My question is how the community was taken > >into account and whether the details of the voting is secret or open? > > > >Are the votes public or is the issue raised publicly? Or is the > >community taken into account privately? I am just trying to get a > >feeling for what the direction of Struts is likely to be and I cannot > >do this without knowing what the workings are. If they are private, > >then they are. If the votes are public, I would like to know what > >they were. > > > >Jack > > > > > >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:12:45 -0600, Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>The PMC makes such decisions, but takes the community into account > >>when making the decision. > >> > >>-- > >>Eddie Bush > >> > >>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:13:15 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>At the risk of being flamed, might I ask if this debate, vote, > >>>whatever was public or limited to the PMC? And, might I ask if this > >>>was sub rosa (so to speak), is that typical? I do not mean to suggest > >>>anything but merely to gather information about the processes, since > >>>these processes impact my use of Struts and my business decisions. > >>>Thanks. > >>> > >>>Jack > >>> > >>><snip> > >>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:03:02 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper > >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>The Apache Struts team is pleased to announce the adoption of its latest > >>>>subproject, Struts Shale, a JSF-based framework. > >>>> > >>>> > >>></snip> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > RiA-SoA w/JDNC <http://www.SandraSF.com> forums > - help develop a community > My blog <http://www.sandrasf.com/adminBlog> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- ------------------------------ "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~Native Proverb~ "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows." ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ ----------------------------------------------- "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
