Frank - 
When JSF matures and you have looked over it again a few times, but possibly
still not had your epiphany. Would you remain happy with the technologies
you know now to see you through the seemingly Shale/JSF dominated future of
Java web frameworks?

I think the question that no-one has asked is what happens if you don't
learn and embrace JSF now and get it on your list of skills? 
Even if you despise it (I have no preference yet), is it not a good move to
get familiar with it regardless (if you can)? 
>From my perspective JSF seems like it is going to become quite a large part
of the scene for a while until it is usurped by something greater. As Craig
pointed out in a previous post though, as struts has, JSF might dominate for
a good 5 years or more and be THE predominate framework that people choose
to use just as struts classic has been.

Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 December 2005 15:17
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Is JSF ready?

On Tue, December 13, 2005 7:27 am, Alexandre Poitras said:
> One advice, there's a lot of FUD spread around JSF right now
> so try it by yourselft first before listening to other people.

This is perhaps the best bit of advice anyone could give.  For whatever
reason, JSF has engendered a great deal of strong feelings on both sides
of the like it/love it fence.  Do yourself a favor and don't even bother
with opinions at this point.  Just play with it and see what you think.

One seemingly universal truth is that if you are going to like it, chances
are it will take a little while.  I haven't talked to many people that
instantly loved it, but I have spoken to numerous people who didn't like
it at first and gradually they came to like it a great deal.  So give it a
fair shake before you decide.

If you really want another opinion for your tally sheet, put me down as
not a big fan.  My JSF experiences have not been encouraging, but notice I
said experienceS... I keep going back and giving it another shot, hoping
the epiphany that many people seem to have will hit me too.  It hasn't yet
though.  It seems that for everything I see that is good about it, I find
something that I think is bad, so on balance I remain unconvinced.

But, my opinion is no better than anyone else', so give it a try yourself,
and give it some time to grow on you, and see if it does.

Frank

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