Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> well... maybe you are a totally cool development team, 
Awwww yeah.

Okay, not really ;)
> following call stacks, debugging... distribution and so on
> would be a real mess... but, as I told before, I never tried myself.
>   
Call stacks are no issue. If you know the API and the chain of events I
really haven't had any problems.
> But what are the benefits for you to use ror?
>   
_Extremely_ fast development cycles, _substantially_ smaller codebase.
You see numbers like 10x thrown around; I wouldn't go that far, but at a
minimum I personally see 4-8x in general and about a third the codebase.

Code reviews are the same as in any language.

Programmatic code checking in completely non-existent :(

Refactoring support essentially non-existent, although I tend to need
less, and with the smaller codebase they are less painful.
Dynamically-typed languages may be harder to deal with in that regard.

_Completely_ moving target: stuff is happening WAY too fast to keep up with.

I do quite a bit of functional prototyping in RoR and then convert to
J2EE, which makes some of my concerns go away since I'm using it
primarily as a specifications document rather than an implementation model.

Dave



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