On 3/25/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Lowe wrote: > > Look.. You've been invited to post your thoughts about the way that > > apache do stuff, to a more appropiate audience than a bunch of > > half-wit struts users like me.. > > Mark, I was involved in a conversation with various people. It so > happens that the conversation developed here. > > What I'm wondering about all this is the following: > > Suppose you went to some meeting, let's say a Struts Users Group > meeting. I'm talking about a non-virtual setting. At this meeting, > various people get involved in a discussion, maybe even a passionate, > heated discussion about something like this. > > Under what circumstances would you butt into a conversation other people > were having and start loudly telling one or more of those people to shut > up? I mean in a situation in which you were not even part of the > discussion even. > > I would bet that you never would behave like this, because this would be > outrageous, uncouth behavior. If you're not interested in what they're > talking about, simply wander off and have some other interaction. The > fact that these people are having whatever discussion does not cause you > any particular inconvenience or problem. Similarly, nobody forces you to > follow every conversation that is going on in this forum. > > Now, if you think the above behavior is unacceptable in the non-virtual > meeting, why do you think it's acceptable here? You take it upon > yourself to jump into a conversation in which you were not even > participating and tell people to shut up. > > Please explain why you think this is acceptable. > > > > > I was using "smear" more in the context of "to soil" > > > > You might have a point, you might not, you could be the next pope for > > all i care.. Let the thread die.. What do you want? Everyone to say.. > > Yes "jonathon you're correct", "freemarker is the best because you're > > involved and it employs a more open policy in respect to commit > > privledges" .. What do you want people to say? > > As I said before, I posed a question. It was not a smarmy sarcastic > question like that of James Mitchell asking me where my patch for the > front web page was. I simply asked a straightforward question about why > Struts development had stagnated if all the project management practices > were so great. > > This is a completely fair and relevant question in the context of the > discussion that developed. I asked the question because I truly was > interested to know what their answer would be. > > I still don't know since nobody has answered the question. Again, why > should I not ask this question? In what way is it a "smear" for me to > ask this question? > > And again, I will be fascinated to know why you think your behavior in > butting into a conversation in which you were not a participant is at > all acceptable. Maybe you should step back and think about this a bit. > > Regards, > > Jonathan Revusky > -- > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > > > > > > Okay,.. You're my hero!! Jonathan is king!!! Anything else? I > > surrender, I'll say whatever you want, your insesent ascii diarrhea > > has beaten us all into submission!!!! Anything else you want me to say > > to stop this thread just say!!! I'll do whatever you want!!! Please > > just tell me what i can do.. > > > > Mark > > > > On 3/25/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Mark Lowe wrote: > >> > >>>May I +1000 what steve said, I'm all for a bit of digression, but this > >>>thread has narrowed the sematic gap between "to post" and "to smear".. > >> > >>What smear? Do you mean "smear" as in "slander"? Could you be more > >>explicit about this? I think you ought to clarify what you mean by that > >>statement or retract it. > >> > >>I asked Steve Raeburn the same question I have asked before. The > >>question is as follows: > >> > >>"If your project management practices are so great, how come Struts > >>development stagnated to such an extent?" > >> > >>The stagnation is not a matter of legitimate debate now. They have had > >>to bring in Webwork, a competing project developed outside of ASF, so > >>that they could have something more up-to-date to offer under the > >>"Struts" brand-name. > >> > >>Why should I not ask that question? Because these people find it > >>embarassing? Well, that's tough cookies, eh? Is that what you're talking > >>about when you say a "smear"? I'm satisfied that this is a completely > >>fair question. It's also a tough question, but it's 100% fair and it's > >>100% on-topic to this discussion. > >> > >>I don't see any reason for these people to refuse to answer it. It's a > >>natural question when people insist that their approach to project > >>management is beyond reproach.
Okay .. You're correct 100%, I'm wrong.. Everything you say is correct, I'm not disputing anything your say, and i retract anything you feel obligied to respond to. Will that do? will you let the thread die know? Please I beg you tell me what I can to help kill this thread... Mark > >> > >>Jonathan Revusky > >>-- > >>lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
