Johnathan,

I am going to eat my own advice. I am going to respond 
to this privately :) Expect an email soon.

Paul

--- Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul Benedict wrote:
> > +1 with Frank and Craig. Unless you need to have your viewpoint
> > continuously heard in public, some of the latter postings can be
> > shared privately. Most of it was good, and I think it generated 
> > much good; thanks for sharing. 
> 
> Well, my problem on this right now is that I just don't have closure.
> 
> I asked the basic question of why Struts development stagnated and 
> people who really should have by now really grappled with this question 
> and considered it, simply disengaged, and some even started with the 
> insults and such.
> 
> I don't really like putting you on the spot, Paul (with other people, I 
> don't mind so much but you seem like a basically okay guy) but I'm just 
> going to ask you the same question I asked a whole bunch of other people 
> and never got any answer from.
> 
> What, in your opinion, are the reasons that Struts development stagnated?
> 
> I know I'm being a hard-nosed SOB but I also know that the question is 
> well-formulated, valid, and broadly on-topic for a Struts list.
> 
> I'm sure you have an opinion on this subject, Paul. If you won't share 
> your views, I'd be curious as to why. You see, I'm developing the 
> impression that the above question is basically taboo somehow.
> 
> Once you pose this question, people just start coming out of the 
> woodwork screaming at you to shut up and stuff. So, at this point, I 
> pretty much have developed a morbid fascination and am inclined to 
> simply ask the question to everybody and see how they react. :-) So now 
> I am asking you... :-)
> 
> Jonathan Revusky
> --
> lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Craig McClanahan wrote:
> >>
> >>>No matter where the conversation developed, it has gone in directions that
> >>>are off topic on this list.  Please feel free to continue the conversation,
> >>>but do it somewhere else.
> >>
> >>(About to break my own "I'm done posting in this thread" rule)...
> >>
> >>Even I, as someone who was knee-deep in this thread for a while, agree 
> >>with Craig.  The problem is it was a discussion for a while, but has 
> >>become people just talking over one another now.
> >>
> >>I'm all for people expressing their viewpoints, no matter how unpopular, 
> >>but at some point it becomes obvious that no one is listening to one 
> >>another, and then it's an exercise in futility.
> >>
> >>No one can stop anyone else from posting, not without locking someone 
> >>out from the list anyway, which I hope never happens to anyone, but at 
> >>some point everyone has to come to the realization that the conversation 
> >>has past the point of being useful in any real way.  If no one's opinion 
> >>was changed 30 posts ago, chances are it's not going to happen now.
> >>
> >>Besides, if the points being raised are valid at all, this thread won't 
> >>be the last of its kind...  Someone will at some point start another and 
> >>it'll all come out again, so why not hold back some of the talking 
> >>points for next time? ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>>Craig
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
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