This does not make sense.  For example, no one cares if there is a community
around Tiles.  That might be nice, but Tiles is sufficiently done.  No
community is necessary.

On 4/18/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4/18/06, Phil Zoio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd be happy to pass Strecks on to Struts itself if the community really
> > wanted it, but I don't see that as essential to its existence in any
> way.
>
> What we look for is a community forming around the codebase. We don't
> just want code, we want people who are committed to maintaining the
> code over the long term. Not just one person, but a community of
> "likely suspects" who will step and and volunteer if the creator of
> the code loses interest.
>
> Many extensions that people now consider essential, like Tiles and
> Validator, started as third-party extensions. Whether we want to add
> an extension to the core usually depends on how many people recommend
> the extension on the list -AND- whether the people developing the
> extension follow the user list.
>
> This is as true for committers as it is for non-committers. Hubert,
> Niall, James Holmes, James Mitchell, Laurie Harper, Don Brown, myself,
> and others, all have extensions to Struts that we have distributed
> separately. Some of these extension were ultimately added to the
> distribution, and others have not been. In the latter case, it's
> usually because the committer chooses not to donate the extension. The
> Struts Action distribution is already quite large, and we are all
> sensitve to "code bloat".
>
> In the case of Strecks,  a similar case would the "EL" tags. At first,
> it was a separate subproject, because EL was based on Java 1.3 when we
> had set Java 1.2 as the baseline. For Struts Action 1.3, we moved the
> baseline, and so EL is now integrated into the JSP Tags. The same
> thing could happen here, if a community grows around the codebase, and
> the community wanted to be an Apache Struts subproject. (Not everyone
> does!)
>
> -Ted.
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