Jonathan Revusky wrote:
Ted Husted wrote:
On 4/19/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Second, all the comitters have answered your questions very nicely


Yes, we have.

I don't know whether you actually believe this in your own mind. However, there is a complete electronic archive of this forum and I don't think that examining it would support this view.

Here is what I think someone would find by examining the archive. Whenever certain pointed questions are posed, one of two things happens:

(1) The person being posed the question simply walks away from the discussion. This has happened at least a couple of times in conversations where I have asked you to clarify points you have made, Ted. This is also the approach Niall Pemberton has used a couple of times. You write something, and then when somebody brings up counter-arguments are asks you to clarify one or more of your points, you just walk away from the discussion.

The other thing that frequently happens is this:

(2) The other person (or sometimes a proxy) resorts to illegitimate ad-hominem discourse to dodge the perfectly legitimate question being posed. This is the approach used at different times by James Mitchell, Steve Raeburn, and Craig McClanahan.
I see things a little different:

1) Someone says they'd like to use Struts

2) Jack or Jon lambast struts and re-pose their standard question with their standard opinion and lable it all as fact rather than opinion.

3) The developers ignore them for a while because we've been round this roundabout a million times before

4) Jack or Jon insult the developers for not answering their questions repeatedly

5) The developers eventually get fed up with the crap on the list an DO answer the question

6) Jack and Jon insist the developers are wrong, say they still haven't answered the question and the cycle continues

The ultimate irony is that the developers also get lambasted for being too slow yet are expected to waste hours of their time trawling through mindless drivel that is constantly repeated over and over again by people WHO DON'T CONTRIBUTE. I don't see Jon & Jack answering users questions yet I do see them constantly and continuously attacking struts and attacking the struts team. You've made your point lads, we're sick of hearing it. If you are going to keep complaining that struts sucks DO SOMETHING TO HELP or just leave us all alone. My mail client has started to label your posts to this list as spam which says something. Even crude AI can see that you are not contributing anything useful.

Finally, Ted & co, thanks for your long posts in reply to these trolls, I, as a struts user, appreciate them and am happy with them. Keep up the good work and don't let the two grumpy old men get you down.

I am also aware that this post is not really that useful so this will be my only contribution to this 'discussion'.

Bart.

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