I found this recent par on a local JUG resonated for me and had some theme parallels to Rick's current thread ... how much do we over-code in ignorance of the natural mechanisms available? (Sure, the uber-coders among us can code better frameworks and deserve the fruits, but not we lesser-lings, who usually tangle things more by trying on that caper.) Rob
Paul Reedman wrote: ><snip/> >I still run into Java projects that build their own frameworks !!! Yes >Struts or hibernate is not good enough, we need our own framework, so lets >spend precious several weeks (or months) of the project time recasting a new >web framework. > >Another thing I have noticed is that Java people love building layers. So a >particular developer doesn't like the interface into hibernate or struts (or >whatever framework) so they build another layer on top of the framework. > >This layer then becomes complicated and so a whole bunch of other people add >to the layer in an attempt to make it "easier". (which doesn't happen >because all they have done is to make it more complicated) > >Of course this new layer hides everything and soon you have no idea what you >are doing. Importantly no one documents this new layer, so when new people >join the project, they ask "I don't understand this framework..". Of course >they don't know that underneath all of this software is plain old struts >which has disappeared from view. ><snip/> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
