I too agree.  IDE's are great once you know the language and whatever
other tools are needed for the use of that language.  But learning a
language with an IDE is not a good idea. But if the beginner is using
the IDE, there are many things that an IDE will do for us and hide and
hide from us, and if something goes wrong the user will not have a clue
about the real problem or how to solve it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Puneet Lakhina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:10 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Drag-and-drop struts-aware IDE?

On 10/23/06, Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Leon, I agreed, drag-and-drop may help developer to develop, but 
> may not help developer to understand more about development ...


I agree too.. People who learn to develop code on things like eclipse
etc.
want the IDE to do almost everything. They never get used to things like
referring to javadoc for what a method does. I have seen people who
didnt
know packages need to be arranged in a directory structure on the file
system. They thought it was just a label. :-)
Im not against eclipse, i think its fanatstic, but not for people who
are
learning to program. Notepad, vim are just fine.

On 10/23/06, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/21/06, Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > A drag-and-drop struts aware IDE ... I believed that there are
some
> > existed
> > >
> > > My team use text editor and some page layout design tool to
develop
> > struts
> > > and webwork webapp, quite fast and the most important thing is
they
> will
> > > understand how a web ui process works (how request is processed,
how
> tag
> > is
> > > performed). I am not saying drag-and-drop style IDE will not help
> > developer
> > > to speed up development, ...
> >
> > I'm. Drag and Drop may save you some time at the beginning and will
> > cost you thrice the time later.
> > Why are people so hot for drag and drop and are ignoring the
evidence
> > that it never works?
> >
> > regards
> > Leon
> >
> >
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Puneet

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