+1 for #4 for a balanced look and stable feel.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Lin, Hai (Henry) <hai....@esgyn.cn> wrote: > +1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.J > > > > Henry > > > > > > *发件人:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *发送时间:* 2016年2月14日 8:50 > *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *主题:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi All, > > > > A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much > of the input that I received. > > > > One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for > your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two > for a run-off.) > > > > By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner > option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option > 4g. > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming....@esgyn.cn> > wrote: > > Thanks Gunnar, > > > > I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular. > > I think we also think about whale before? > > > > The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and > real J > > > > And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can > draw a baby dragon? > > > > And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my > favorite J > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to > me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this > kind of design. > > > > Thanks, > > Ming > > > > *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] > *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43 > *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal > > > > Trying an attachment... > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming....@esgyn.cn> > wrote: > > Hi, Gunnar, > > > > Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I > saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people > cannot access Google drive . > > > > Thanks, > > Ming > > > > *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] > *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31 > *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose > the following draft as a candidate: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc > > > > I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for > consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the > gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's > better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google > Fonts: Telex Regular. > > > > As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm > sure it'll meet the other criteria, too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson < > carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and > ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion > fits into the puzzle ;-) . > > > > I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be > honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the > US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our > traffic comes from. > > > > Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday? > > > > -Carol P. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy < > venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are > serious. > > Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the > website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will. > > Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name. > > > > Venkat > > > > *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < > tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > It seems we might need multiple votes: > > - One color or multiple colors? > > - Thin font or thick font? > > - One font or two fonts? > > - Apache or not… > > > > What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com > > > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > -1 all same color. > > > > I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to > remove Apache .... But I still like it the way it is > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to > read about it? > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as > compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I > feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. > > > > Rohit > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> > Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > > Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Logo Proposal > > I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon > and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. > > > > I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word > APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). > > > > With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the > "power by Apache" logo, see URL here > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of > "Apache". > > > > It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. > > > > Thanks --Qifan > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > -1 > > > > Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. > > > > Rohit > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Logo Proposal > > Hi, > > > > I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. > > > > A simple change: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Option 4!! > > > > Trina > > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out > and I'm not fond of it overall... > > > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at > all.... > > > > Thanks Ken! > > > > -Carol P. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The > dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J > > > > *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, > not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional > (perhaps also in lower case). > > > > Weishiun > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but > with the placement of option 6. > > > > That said, either one is fine. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really > well the yellow elephant! > > > > Regards, > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s > too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have > that issue. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Logo Proposal > > > > Hi All, > > > > Apache Trafodion needs a logo. > > > > I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some > time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of > Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo > that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a > simple cute dragon. > > > > I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that > we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. > > > > Dragon standalone - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing > > Trafodion name & dragon - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing > > > > I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s > look too similar. > > > > Thoughts? Should we vote on this? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Amanda Moran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > > > > > -- > > Regards, --Qifan > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, --Qifan > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Gunnar > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.* > > > -- Regards, --Qifan
