Scott Eade wrote:
We hope to release 2.3.3 real soon now. The blocker is that we want to use Torque 3.3 and we want to wait another week before voting on that so that people will have had a chance to provide feedback on it's RC-3 release. I don't believe we have any plans for a 2.3.3 RC release - straight to final would be my suggestion.

Yep that would have been my suggestion as well.

3. Is there any active work on the turbine code base ?
As time permits we (and this includes Siegfried and others) are working on tidying up the trunk in order to get to a 2.4 release, but progress is indeed very slow.

I made a couple of cleanup back-and-forth-ports between the 2.3-branch and the Fulcrum components during the last year and will strive to release some Fulcrum services one-by-one (and kill others).

4. If there is no work, is that because it all just works or because everybody has abandoned turbine in favor of something else ?
It is probably fair to say that many have moved to other frameworks that are more in vogue, however there are plenty of people that have existing applications that need to be maintained into the future so support for and slow forward progress of turbine should still occur. Your point about stability may also be true to a certain extent.

I strongly believe that Turbine is well-suited for a fair number of web applications. Applications are easy to write and easy to maintain. Extensions to the framework can be easily integrated. The different service backends open the doors to a lot of ready-made components. And Turbine 2.3.2 is (almost) rock-solid.

On my list of wishes for Turbine are better I18N-support, a bit more flexibility with screen elements and a generic JSR-223-support in the backend (I hate^Wneed PHP). All these will come up if time permits.

Another option to consider is diving in and helping with turbine. It sounds like you have a long term interest in the continued support of turbine so why not invest a little time in keeping it moving forward. After a couple of decent patches we are usually fairly happy to vote on commit access.

I would like to second that. If you have anything you want to contribute, please do.

Bye, Thomas.

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