My very shaky understanding from skimming those issues was that in some cases there were two threads handling different types of data that are related to the same transaction -- but maybe that's only true when there's a leader and a follower. But I also saw something in there about restoring data from a snapshot vs. restoring it from a log, which seems like it could have happened in a single node case.

In any case, now the 3.3.3 is out I'll give it a try and report back if we keep seeing this.

Thanks!

Jeremy

On 03/01/2011 02:59 PM, Vishal Kher wrote:
Hi Jeremy,

I just realized that you are using a standalone ZK server. I don't think the bugs apply to you, so I don't have an answer to your question. I think 3.3.3 should be released soon: http://zookeeper-dev.578911.n2.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-ZooKeeper-3-3-3-candidate-1-td6059109.html

-Vishal

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Stribling <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks for the pointers Vishal, I hadn't seen those.  They look
    like they could be related, but without knowing how metadata
    updates are grouped into transactions, it's hard for me to say.  I
    would expect the cversion update to happen within the same
    transaction as the creation of a new child, but if they get
    written to the log in two separate steps, perhaps these issues
    could explain it.

    Any estimate on when 3.3.3 will be released?  I haven't seen any
    updates on the user list about it.  Thanks,

    Jeremy


    On 03/01/2011 12:40 PM, Vishal Kher wrote:

        Hi Jermy,

        One of the main reasons for 3.3.3 release was to include fixes
        for znode
        inconsistency bugs.
        Have you taken a look at
        https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-962and
        https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-919?
        The problem that you are seeing sounds similar to the ones
        reported.

        -Vishal



        On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Jeremy
        Stribling<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:


            Hi all,

            A while back I noticed that my Zookeeper cluster got into
            a state where I
            would get a "node exists" error back when creating a
            sequential znode -- see
            the thread starting at
            
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-zookeeper-user/201010.mbox/%[email protected]%3Efor
            more details.  The summary is that at the time, my
            application had a bug

            that could have been improperly bringing new nodes into a
            cluster.

            However, I've seen this a couple more times since fixing
            that original bug.
             I don't yet know how to reproduce it, but I am going to
            keep trying.  In
            one case, we restarted a node (in a one-node cluster), and
            when it came back
            up we could no longer create sequential nodes on a certain
            parent node, with
            a node exists (-110) error code.  The biggest child it saw
            on restart was
            /zkrsm/000000000000002d_record0000120804 (i.e., a sequence
            number of
            120804), however a stat on the parent node revealed that
            the cversion was
            only 120710:

            [zk:<ip:port>(CONNECTED) 3] stat /zkrsm
            cZxid = 0x5
            ctime = Mon Jan 17 18:28:19 PST 2011
            mZxid = 0x5
            mtime = Mon Jan 17 18:28:19 PST 2011
            pZxid = 0x1d819
            cversion = 120710
            dataVersion = 0
            aclVersion = 0
            ephemeralOwner = 0x0
            dataLength = 0
            numChildren = 2955

            So my question is: how is znode metadata persisted with
            respect to the
            actual znodes?  Is it possible that a node's children will
            get synced to
            disk before its own metadata, and if it crashes at a bad
            time, the metadata
            updates will be lost?  If so, is there any way to
            constrain Zookeeper so
            that it will sync its metadata before returning success
            for write
            operations?

            (I'm using Zookeeper 3.3.2 on a Debian Squeeze 64-bit box,
            with
            openjdk-6-jre 6b18-1.8.3-2.)

            I'd be happy to create a JIRA for this if that seems
            useful, but without a
            way to reproduce it I'm not sure that it is.

            Thanks,

            Jeremy





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