Ok thank you. I've created:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1046
and left it unassigned for now.
Jeremy
On 04/12/2011 03:09 PM, Fournier, Camille F. [Tech] wrote:
I have some ideas of where to look on this, happy to do it in the next day or
two if no one else wants to look. Please do open a jira even though you can't
reproduce it consistently yet, just so we have somewhere to track the efforts.
C
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Stribling [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:11 PM
To: Vishal Kher
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: znode metadata consistency
I haven't found a way to reproduce it consistently, but if I do I will
update a JIRA. Until then, I was mostly just hoping that someone
on-list could explain whether the meta-data of a parent node is written
to disk in some consistent way at the same time that a new child node is
added under the parent. I would hope that those two operations get
lumped together in the same transaction, but I haven't yet been able to
dig into the code myself and confirm that.
On 04/12/2011 02:07 PM, Vishal Kher wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
It would be good to open a jira for this. In addition to this
description, please explain the step to reproduce this problem.
Did this problem happen after changing membership? Can you also add to
the jira how you perform membership change?
-Vishal
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jeremy Stribling<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Unfortunately I'm seeing this issue again in 3.3.3. A number of
node restarts resulted in a ZNODEEXISTS error when creating a new
sequential znode. I've got a 3-node setup running on Debian, and
I've collected the full logs here:
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~strib/zk_node_exists.tgz
<http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/%7Estrib/zk_node_exists.tgz> [24 MB,
670 MB unzipped]. The logs are named as
nodeX.<zxid_prefixes>.log, and each new log represents an
application process restart.
Here's the scenario:
1) There's a cluster with nodes 1,2,3 using zxid 0x3.
2) All three nodes restart, forming a cluster of zxid 0x4.
3) Node 3 restarts, leading to a cluster of 0x5.
At this point, it seems like node 1 is the leader of the 0x5
epoch. In its log (node1.0x4-0x5.log) you can see the first (of
many) instances of the following message:
2011-04-11 21:16:12,607 16649 [ProcessThread:-1] INFO
org.apache.zookeeper.server.PrepRequestProcessor - Got user-level
KeeperException when processing sessionid:0x512f466bd44e0002
type:create cxid:0x4da376ab zxid:0xfffffffffffffffe
txntype:unknown reqpath:n/a Error
Path:/zkrsm/00000000000000b2_record0001761440
Error:KeeperErrorCode = NodeExists for
/zkrsm/00000000000000b2_record0001761440
This then repeats forever as my application isn't expecting to
ever get this error message on a sequential node create, and just
continually retries. The message even transfers over to
node3.0x5-0x6.log once the 0x6 epoch comes into play.
I don't see anything terribly fishy in the transition between the
epochs; the correct snapshots seem to be getting transferred,
etc. Unfortunately I don't have a ZK snapshot/log that exhibits
the problem when starting with a fresh system.
Does anyone have any ideas? Maybe it's related to one of the
outstanding election JIRAs (like ZOOKEEPER-975)? Thanks,
Jeremy
P.S. Some oddities you might notice in these logs:
* Between epochs 0x3 and 0x4, the zookeeper IDs of the nodes
changed due to a bug in our application code.
* We manage node membership dynamically, and our application
restarts the ZooKeeperServer classes whenever a new node wants to
join (without restarting the entire application process). This is
why you'll see messages like the following in node1.0x4-0x5.log
before a new election begins:
2011-04-11 21:16:00,762 4804 [QuorumPeer:/0.0.0.0:2888
<http://0.0.0.0:2888>] INFO
org.apache.zookeeper.server.quorum.Learner - shutdown called
On 03/01/2011 04:09 PM, Jeremy Stribling wrote:
My very shaky understanding from skimming those issues was that
in some cases there were two threads handling different types of
data that are related to the same transaction -- but maybe that's
only true when there's a leader and a follower. But I also saw
something in there about restoring data from a snapshot vs.
restoring it from a log, which seems like it could have happened
in a single node case.
In any case, now the 3.3.3 is out I'll give it a try and report
back if we keep seeing this.
Thanks!
Jeremy
On 03/01/2011 02:59 PM, Vishal Kher wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
I just realized that you are using a standalone ZK server. I
don't think the bugs apply to you, so I don't have an answer to
your question.
I think 3.3.3 should be released soon:
http://zookeeper-dev.578911.n2.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-ZooKeeper-3-3-3-candidate-1-td6059109.html
-Vishal
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Stribling
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the pointers Vishal, I hadn't seen those. They
look like they could be related, but without knowing how
metadata updates are grouped into transactions, it's hard
for me to say. I would expect the cversion update to happen
within the same transaction as the creation of a new child,
but if they get written to the log in two separate steps,
perhaps these issues could explain it.
Any estimate on when 3.3.3 will be released? I haven't seen
any updates on the user list about it. Thanks,
Jeremy
On 03/01/2011 12:40 PM, Vishal Kher wrote:
Hi Jermy,
One of the main reasons for 3.3.3 release was to include
fixes for znode
inconsistency bugs.
Have you taken a look at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-962and
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-919?
The problem that you are seeing sounds similar to the
ones reported.
-Vishal
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Jeremy
Stribling<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Hi all,
A while back I noticed that my Zookeeper cluster got
into a state where I
would get a "node exists" error back when creating a
sequential znode -- see
the thread starting at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-zookeeper-user/201010.mbox/%[email protected]%3Efor
more details. The summary is that at the time, my
application had a bug
that could have been improperly bringing new nodes
into a cluster.
However, I've seen this a couple more times since
fixing that original bug.
I don't yet know how to reproduce it, but I am
going to keep trying. In
one case, we restarted a node (in a one-node
cluster), and when it came back
up we could no longer create sequential nodes on a
certain parent node, with
a node exists (-110) error code. The biggest child
it saw on restart was
/zkrsm/000000000000002d_record0000120804 (i.e., a
sequence number of
120804), however a stat on the parent node revealed
that the cversion was
only 120710:
[zk:<ip:port>(CONNECTED) 3] stat /zkrsm
cZxid = 0x5
ctime = Mon Jan 17 18:28:19 PST 2011
mZxid = 0x5
mtime = Mon Jan 17 18:28:19 PST 2011
pZxid = 0x1d819
cversion = 120710
dataVersion = 0
aclVersion = 0
ephemeralOwner = 0x0
dataLength = 0
numChildren = 2955
So my question is: how is znode metadata persisted
with respect to the
actual znodes? Is it possible that a node's
children will get synced to
disk before its own metadata, and if it crashes at a
bad time, the metadata
updates will be lost? If so, is there any way to
constrain Zookeeper so
that it will sync its metadata before returning
success for write
operations?
(I'm using Zookeeper 3.3.2 on a Debian Squeeze
64-bit box, with
openjdk-6-jre 6b18-1.8.3-2.)
I'd be happy to create a JIRA for this if that seems
useful, but without a
way to reproduce it I'm not sure that it is.
Thanks,
Jeremy
