Thanks Norbert. That's what I was looking for.
Jeremiah Adams Software Engineer www.helixeducation.com Blog | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn ________________________________________ From: Norbert Kalmar <nkal...@cloudera.com.INVALID> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 9:10 AM To: user@zookeeper.apache.org Subject: Re: Java 11 OpenJDK/Oracle Java Release Cadence Questions Theres already a Jira and PR available to fix 3.4 JDK11 related errors: https://url.emailprotection.link/?aXbNFujPDP4Cfs-6OQ7jlf8T9J_NulRd7SGvkTYwMFSCvqj8cs_nASuZY_IuMYsDBYNy3ovmMGhkJ0enSUq_6Aw~~ https://url.emailprotection.link/?aZyQRg2CGut2qgyHrdHxA3gvs1Dk_s06ZpceWF3zZRj5IZFduQMlz3mc2gDeFSIkEKORL0WbBP9-cMnVSMwrJWA~~ But this won't be released by September 25th that's for sure. But I think it will until end of support of older JDK's, so by 2019 January. This is not a promise though, as I don't know the release plans for 3.4 Regards, Norbert On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:01 PM Jeremiah Adams <jad...@helixeducation.com> wrote: > > Java 11 is out on Sept., 25 and makes Java 8, 9 and 10 obsolete. Java 8, > 9, and 10 will no longer receive security patches/updates beginning in > January 2019. Organizations have the option to pay Oracle for patches in > order to stay on Java 8. > > Oracle is changing its release cycle and licensing for Java SE (which is > no more as off 11). Java SE is rebranded to Oracle java and is an LTS > release requiring paid licenses per processor running java 11. Fee is $25 > per processor. LTS means fewer upgrades, but does receive security patches. > > Oracle will continue to contribute to OpenJDK. However, the OpenJDK > releases will come every six month and are called “Major” releases.. Each > release making the previous obsolete with zero security patches/updates > applied to previous versions. > > All of this sounds really bad, however, the “major” versions that will > come from OpenJDK are more akin to going from 8->8u20->8u40 than from Java > 7 to Java 8. So the biggest hurdle is simply aligning project releases with > OpenJDK release cadences. This implies building to release candidates prior > to bi-annual JDK release testing and releasing. > > If your organization doesn’t want to pay for Oracle Java your org will > have to upgrade Java versions every six months. While we can easily manage > our own code base, dependencies such as Zookeeper are key to our business > and difficult to control. > > Below are links related to this topic I found while doing research. If > anyone can comes to different conclusions please share. > > I do have testing Zookeeper on Java 11 in our backlog but do not know how > soon I can get to that. > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aDBOFTaWEGiT3_M2IXWtc0j72Y6avuFmu2X6u4DJ7_0T0iyIyEgUzpjF6rBt6TIRXQYWMVthA64THcUqnV5hU4pdymWzPI3L7YERnixT8rA0Z47pxu1bzSDsgrMz1NV_3Vot8xbB3KHWgTLasBS28Q-jGlnSLrqiejfG7jh4QqnM~ > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aDBOFTaWEGiT3_M2IXWtc0iUPRrQ-bzd6r2p9Tl0XlSSjWk5HhL3ovTAmykUMgR335x1B7NfLOg2mRZ57SZL8myVQFm7vuSasrJeInSoMHQhxVlsLEByQvcRHQeUlQ62SN10DqoTiP2i8DFABfafYVoKzcQTBNShsG0REu93t4bc~ > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aDBOFTaWEGiT3_M2IXWtc0iUPRrQ-bzd6r2p9Tl0XlSQRBane7pfZXo2rexwPhq2Tc6Myhnk6sA4D9q3HyexrDA~~ > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aYmBZB8QfgHNf5nRk8JdSbFwfj1IesvpEjPoIIvwuf87w2jQAvkc4puGYJormDdEi14FVjy8N25CbthNaebiIOtp3xkOYhKLMQxXuGid9--_CobmijsPowQCHRj2Islp2 > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aYmBZB8QfgHNf5nRk8JdSbFwfj1IesvpEjPoIIvwuf85pQA-DVbxCqa-9rZSuX7kxznRvqZ9cKxtgd62zs8ibZEjABbem_1VoLatid2rg78wShF8Qu_KEHqGdvReur2ID > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aDBOFTaWEGiT3_M2IXWtc0iUPRrQ-bzd6r2p9Tl0XlSSjWk5HhL3ovTAmykUMgR334EDnAQb9JPs_AJil5RU_3pqotWsSlzYVzdulacvboup4NSrSH7V166uVVPvPBg0z > https://url.emailprotection.link/?ahm35FfkbnDmFxeI3cPiwUIZzSXt6BkEkee_ZcP79j1zYtClglkO3u8rPOhpRMsxL2JOdvu-kISrVa_8Qn5dwAQ~~ > > > > Jeremiah Adams > Software Engineer > https://url.emailprotection.link/?ahfhEufaAWbezBrUFPG98ZJcterGfIerU3ZwsA3Gv_C0~ > Blog | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn > > ________________________________________ > From: Jeremiah Adams <jad...@helixeducation.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:28 AM > To: user@zookeeper.apache.org > Subject: [POSSIBLE PHISHING] Re: Java 11 OpenJDK/Oracle Java Release > Cadence Questions > > "But if it's too late for you, you can still revert to OpenJDK8 which is > supported until June 2023 (if that's an option to you at all)." > > Please correct me if I am misinformed but this is not consistent with the > research I have been doing. 8 will no longer receive security updates from > Oracle beginning Jan 2019. To continue receiving patches from Oracle, > processors and end users must be licensed. Redhat has an OpenJDK but it > also requires paid support. Other vendors build OpenJDK8 but this is > getting too far off the beaten path for me to consider production worthy. > > > > I am currently evaluating each of our core java dependencies to determine > if paying for this support is our best path forward until Java11 is widely > adopted. > > Thanks > > > Jeremiah Adams > Software Engineer > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?ahfhEufaAWbezBrUFPG98ZJcterGfIerU3ZwsA3Gv_C0~ > Blog | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn > > ________________________________________ > From: Norbert Kalmar <nkal...@cloudera.com.INVALID> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:48 AM > To: user@zookeeper.apache.org > Subject: Re: Java 11 OpenJDK/Oracle Java Release Cadence Questions > > Hi Jeremiah, > > I don't know what will happen with the Oracle support, I'm sure oracleJDK11 > will be sorted out for ZK sooner or later. > > But if it's too late for you, you can still revert to OpenJDK8 which is > supported until June 2023 (if that's an option to you at all). > > But seeing people concerned with a topic here on this list sure can speed > things up. So thanks for writing, this is definitely on the table, and we > will keep You guys updated! > > Regards, > Norbert > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 7:36 PM Jeremiah Adams <jad...@helixeducation.com> > wrote: > > > My primary concern is the drop of support and security patches for Java8 > > in January by Oracle. It will require paying for support if not upgraded > to > > Java 11. We are trying to get ahead of this because of budgets. > > > > > > Jeremiah Adams > > Software Engineer > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?ahfhEufaAWbezBrUFPG98ZJcterGfIerU3ZwsA3Gv_C0~ > > Blog | Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:20 AM > > To: UserZooKeeper; DevZooKeeper > > Subject: Re: Java 11 OpenJDK/Oracle Java Release Cadence Questions > > > > Hi Jeremiah. It's failing consistently on Jenkins, unlikely to officially > > support until someone addresses those: > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aiZTcxUx4h_dcZxn8EbCGprch71qelj0ZbtLyOKh81lGDtcTT9nJTlYs664Fxxbo6NyeapY3ycsrKiReKk2X-NndjsOGpxSNaC9H6hYX2gFkoRiL_OQRSJbsZy3GW7njr > > > > We've been testing with openjdk for quite some time, those are supported. > > The docs are ambiguous in that regard: > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?axDFV0VGEqoZ5mAP7-eAuEvymmcOqMy-AQd1z3ZmjioJpcV45jei0TZPPFqveKFbWyaiBdaBjhuqlsUc3Fgt2qgYG4nxsnGPwk1t0yi0fCeA3yFq1ZN2mMQZYzVoeCqOa > > however I don't see why Oracle and OpenJDK wouldn't be supported. EOD > it's > > up to the community. > > > > Patrick > > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:02 AM Jeremiah Adams < > jad...@helixeducation.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > Are there any documents available concerning Zookeeper's support for > Java > > > 11 and documents regarding models supporting Oracle's new licensing and > > > release cadences? > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > Jeremiah Adams > > > Software Engineer > > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?ahfhEufaAWbezBrUFPG98ZJcterGfIerU3ZwsA3Gv_C0~ > > < > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?a49H2rNGIIBtQOw6md8OcHp-qKE3Xn2gNiZ3dlqAeSDA~ > > > > > > Blog< > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?a49H2rNGIIBtQOw6md8OcHgFEZu-KYuiu8doY66NWwmmyWxz7kC-27Yfnbdgd2wyh5gjXUa6LMT_NRXsj1g1VVg~~ > > > > | Twitter< > > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?a0Q7ct5_6cOdbJ86kpWB0zx6RbtgugTVC7lU_W7za50jLdZQGpLgVlR1V06zckSaM5oOKb6QBo46Qp9xt0Tt7Aw~~ > > > > | Facebook< > > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aAmyAO_nS_C1aDgBLeKyGTu0tksTt1_mn2PcS8KJXNJPM04iRHKgX96qGgENV-dMSER5wl8zDVRr3RsS0OmcF9A~~ > > > > | LinkedIn< > > > > > > https://url.emailprotection.link/?aanlcNI-cN74Gdz-TD332xAl6lHu7TRNICWoHUFjYf-KlBjrCGHoYR65b3rl-OyW10nWFv6hwYvUSoVHL4b3vGA~~ > > > > > > > > >
