Pardon my ignorance, but why not help TomEE move to ActiveMQ Artemis which
already supports JMS 2.0? If I recall correctly one of the reasons that the
HornetQ donation was originally accepted was because it provided JMS 2.0
support. This would save work on changes to the 5.x code-base and speed
TomEE's transition to Artemis which should happen eventually anyway.


Justin

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:05 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The first step is at least the client support, similar to what have been
> done on OpenEJB:
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/tomee/tree/master/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/resource/activemq/jms2
> <
> https://github.com/apache/tomee/tree/master/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/resource/activemq/jms2
> >
>
> This allow TomEE to work with ActiveMQ using JMS 2.0.
>
> So, the proposal is to have a two steps work:
>
> 1. Support JMS 2.0 client side, it will help in tomee, karaf, etc
> 2. Step by step implement server side support
>
> IMHO, 1 would be good step forward already and it works fine for a while
> in tomee. It will already allow us to update the spec.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 18 mai 2021 à 21:09, Christopher Shannon <
> christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > What exactly are you proposing? Full support would be a tremendous amount
> > of work. I started a thread on this already a while back here:
> >
> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-JMS-2-0-support-in-5-x-going-forward-td4757779.html
> >
> > My issue here is the lack of clarity. I have no clue what you are
> proposing
> > but it needs to be defined so we don't mislead users by claiming there is
> > JMS 2.0 support when there isn't. I listed out possible paths forward in
> > that other thread.
> >
> > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:04 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It’s something that we already discussed and I moved forward on the PR.
> >>
> >> I propose to move forward on JMS 2.0 support.
> >>
> >> If the community agree, and tests are fine, I don’t see any issue to
> >> support it in 5.17.0 as best effort.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I will propose the PR, and see when to include it.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 17:36, Christopher Shannon <
> >> christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Since when is JMS 2.0 supposed to be supported by 5.17.0?
> >>>
> >>> None of the features are implemented on the server side for the new API
> >>> calls. This was brought up in a dev discussion that there won't be JMS
> >> 2.0
> >>> support on the server side in this release.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:29 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> He’s not PMC but committer, so he can help anyway ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 17:23, COURTAULT Francois <
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think Romain is still the PMC for TomEE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>> Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:19
> >>>>> To: users@activemq.apache.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or
> >> 3.0
> >>>> ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m sure I can ask help from Romain about TomEE releases ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 17:09, COURTAULT Francois <
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> a écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello Jean-Baptiste,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We are using ActiveMQ in TomEE context.
> >>>>>> So I am just curious about when this version could be included in
> >> TomEE
> >>>> releases. I will push for that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best Regards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net
> >>
> >>>>>> Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:05
> >>>>>> To: users@activemq.apache.org <mailto:users@activemq.apache.org>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or
> >>>> 3.0 ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The purpose of the RC is to cut an early release (kind of "cut
> >>>> SNAPSHOT") to allow users to test it before the first "official"
> >> release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What I can propose to you is:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. I need couple of weeks to open the PRs and merge it (I’m on JDK11
> >>>> now, identifying/fixing/disabling some tests) 2. When done, I will
> >> inform
> >>>> you on the mailing list allowing you to test using the SNAPSHOTs
> >>>> (5.17.0-SNAPSHOT) 3. If I don’t see any blocker on SNAPSHOT, then I
> will
> >>>> move forward on 5.17.0 release
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does it sound good to you ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 16:59, Simon Billingsley
> >>>> <simon.billings...@matrixx.com.INVALID> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the details information.
> >>>>>>> I am interested in the Log4J 2 upgrade.
> >>>>>>> How long does the release take after the RC process normally?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>> Simon.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 18 May 2021, at 15:53, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net
> >>>> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:
> >> j...@nanthrax.net
> >>>>>> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net><mailto:
> >> j...@nanthrax.net
> >>>> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi François,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ 5.17.0 will support JMS 2.0.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Basically, what I’m planning for ActiveMQ 5.17.0:
> >>>>>>> - JDK11 build
> >>>>>>> - Spring 5
> >>>>>>> - Log4j2
> >>>>>>> - JMS 2.0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> About date target, I’m working on JDK11 build now and the other PRs
> >>>> will follow. I would like to submit a first 5.17 RC end of June.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 16:48, COURTAULT Francois <
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com>><mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com <mailto:
> >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The question to be answered is in the Subject.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best Regards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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