That was definitely my point of confusion, thank you both for clearing it
up.

One quick follow up - what's the best way to analyze the contents of a
"*.amq" journal file? I've tried various uses of the "artemis data ___"
command, but I've never gotten the messages I've sent during a broker's
session to show up when analyzing the journal files with any methods I've
tried.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote:

> In my opinion the documentation is not very clear on this point. It says:
>
>  > ActiveMQ Artemis will keep a copy of each generated journal file, up to
> the configured retention period, at the unit chose. On the example above
> the system would keep all the journal files up to 365 days.
>
> As far as I can tell "each generated journal" file is different from
> "candidates for deletion."
>
> I will fix this soon if nobody else beats me to it first.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 11:09 AM Gary Tully <gary.tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It does not keep two copies of the data, is is more that journal files
> > that are candidates for deletion are archived or retained rather than
> > being deleted.
> > if the data is still in the journal, then it won't exist in the
> > retention folder.
> >
> > send and consume more messages such that compaction would cleanup and
> > remove some journal data files, those will then appear in the
> > retention folder.
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 16:33, Matthew Harris <harrisman1...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set up data persistence with an Artemis ActiveMQ broker,
> > > version 2.20.0.
> > >
> > > In broker.xml, I use a "journal-retention-directory" tag to create a
> > > copy of the journals generated by running the broker in the
> > > "data/retention" directory for 365 days, as described in the
> > documentation
> > > here:
> > >
> >
> https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/persistence.html
> > > .
> > >
> > > After I do this, I use "artemis producer" and "artemis consumer" to
> send
> > > and receive sample messages and populate the journal with data.
> However,
> > > once I stop the broker using "artemis stop" and move to the
> > > "data/retention" directory, I see no copies of the journals.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something in the set up, or is there something else I need
> > to
> > > do to enable retention? I've been troubleshooting this for a bit and
> am a
> > > little lost.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matthew
> >
> >
>

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