Hi  susfuse,

  I think u get understand that Maven was certainly the best option to
AppFuse. As I saw in some Argumenting Forum Sites (by the way 1 here in
Brazil) arguments comparing Dependency Management Tools and the conclusion
is that Maven is (if not the best) 1 of the best. For this, and other
reasons, Matt Raible get quite right choosing Maven scrip tool.

  Matt, what owr fellow susfuse (and a lot of other 1) is missing is a more
detailed tutorial/instructions on using AppFuse via Maven (OffLine). In
AppFuse's Documentation in
AppFuse.dev.java<https://appfuse.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=9173>
we
just get: (as saw in )Dvlopin_OffLine.JPG
It very natural that people that uses Ant for mothes (or even ages) are much
used with Ant.
  Matt, I encorage u keep on your effort in AppFuse (even I know u're
delighted with other tecnologies as Rails, for instance). But, I consider we
should set owr focus more in UI. By the way, I think it would certainly
leverage AppFuse to Web2, RIA/AJAX(a good work has already been done with
Faces, DWR, etc,), JavaOnRails, etc; and Agil approachs. Candy4AppFuse and
m2eclipse were *2 good iniciatives*. But, only 1 must be chosen and thus
enhanced. (Obs.: other MetaFrameworks Tool like J2EE-Spider and JSenna has
appeared; but AppFuse get the pro of integrating the best FrameWorks using
the best DesignePatterns of the market.)
  In owr cenario, can see no other way to AppFuse advance.

  Matt anb other volunteers fellows, congratulation for the great work and
cheers up to Rich Interfaces,

Ice-Man


2008/11/26 Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> It wouldn't be easy to extend Ant to AppFuse 2.x b/c we do things like
> overlaying WARs that wouldn't be as easy. Personally, I was frustrated with
> the way AppFuse 1.x was organized (from an SVN perspective) and I like
> AppFuse 2.x much better. I'm always very happy to accept patches if someone
> wants to contribute Ant support. However, I found it very difficult to
> maintain the dependencies in AppFuse 1.x and with 2.x all I have to do is
> change a version number in an XML file. There is a download where you can
> get all the dependencies, but you will have to still create your project
> using the archetype:create command.
>
> https://appfuse.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=9173
>
> More than anything, if you don't like the way AppFuse works - don't use it.
> There's several alternative solutions out there these days.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:09 AM, susfuse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> But till now as we were using ANT for Appfuse1.x, It would be easy to have
>> it extend to Appfuse2.x also. Right? Is it not possible to have Appfuse2.x
>> as a .zip download (i mean single download) as it was in Appfuse1.x
>>
>>  Michael Duergner wrote:
>> You can do that, once you've downloaded all dependencies into your local
>> repository. But I can't see your problem with not having a downloadable
>> version of Appfuse. You will have to use Maven anyway, so why download
>> Appfuse outside Maven before? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM,
>>
>> .
.
.
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