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From: Karl Pietrzak <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:03:59 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: what parallel DBMS is AsterixDB compared against?

Yes, please, that would be great.  Ill throw it into Google Translate and look 
at the graphs.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 6:42 PM Chen Li 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
About one year ago some students in China did an AsterixDB/Greenplum and wrote 
a report in Chinese.  If needed, I can contact them to get the report again, 
since the old one was not kept.

Chen

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:44 PM Michael Carey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You should be fine:  "The Greenplum project is released under the Apache
2 license." (quoting from their github repo)  :-)

This sounds like an interesting undertaking - keep us posted and feel
free to come here for support/Q's/tuning thoughts/etc.  You should be
able to grab a copy of BigFUN and its data generator if using it is of
interest; exactly where to find those will be listed in the BigFUN paper
references.

Cheers,

Mike

On 8/7/19 2:35 PM, Karl Pietrzak wrote:
> Thanks, Michael!  I'm looking to compare AsterixDB against Greenplum
> and post the results.  Anyone know if Greenplum has the "DeWitt clause"?
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 4:20 PM Michael Carey 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>     (Meant to reply to the list!)
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject:  Re: what parallel DBMS is AsterixDB compared against?
>     Date:     Wed, 7 Aug 2019 13:18:04 -0700
>     From:     Michael Carey <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>     To:       Karl Pietrzak <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>
>     It's known in the literature as "System X" - other work, e.g., the
>     early MIT/Brown work in 2008-2009, used that same system in their
>     work on commercial databases vs. Hadoop and referred to it as
>     "System X" (so we did the same, name-wise).  Most for-pay database
>     vendors' license agreements have a clause known informally as the
>     "DeWitt clause" that prohibit publishing any performance results
>     from their systems, so the tradition in the DBMS academic
>     benchmarking world is to not name the systems.  This one was a
>     commercial shared-nothing parallel DBMS that is known to be a
>     solid performer (it wasn't just a strawman) and in the end the
>     graduate student who ran the numbers visited them on-site to get
>     some help in properly setting up the system.
>
>     If you go to http://asterix.ics.uci.edu//publications.html you can
>     find a copy of the BigFUN benchmark paper (which this was a
>     preliminary version of) as well as some other papers that might be
>     of interest.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Mike
>
>     On 8/7/19 10:52 AM, Karl Pietrzak wrote:
>>     Hi everyone!
>>
>>     Looking at the home page
>>     (https://asterixdb.apache.org/index.html), I'm wondering what
>>     parallel DBMS is AsterixDB being compared against?
>>
>>     Is there more information on this benchmark, too?
>>
>>     Thanks!
>>
>>     --
>>     Karl
>
>
>
> --
> Karl

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