Schaible, J�rg wrote:
Hello Avalon users,
Hi J�rg!
Nah...there's work going on in avalon in different areas. Everything you find at http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/avalon is in development and supported. Everything not there is "in development" and unstable by definition.Looking into the mail archives and reading a lot of the messages and looking at the Wiki, I got the impression that Fortress is the successor of ECM with an advanced lifecycle approach, but the real development is currently done for Merlin.
Merlin is alpha code, fortress and ECM aren't. ECM has been stable a long time. Fortress is basically finished and we're cleaning things up so it can be released (basic roadmap: logkit release coming up, then framework, then ECM, then fortress, then phoenix). I think you'll see lots of development and work going into merlin, with lots of changes, after those releases (I for one have lots of plans :D).
yep. Merlin _is_ a quickly moving target. It is not intended for 'newbies' at this stage.While it is perfectly understandable, that documentation is not the primary task at this stage, for newbies it is nearly too much to get even the basic ideas behind all these new interfaces and services from these examples to get anything useful running at all.
It doesn't make too much sense to write a lot of docs right now because things will change and the docs will no longer be correct.
I hear ya. Merlin is a complex beast (but becoming less so). I would suggest that if you just want to actually develop software, you stick with stable (or at least beta) packages. Running along with merlin is cool (interesting stuff going on), but you have to realize it is out on the edge.Looking at the time I already spent and the results I reached, I am currently really somewhat frustrated. Any help welcome ...
While Steve and some others are doing a nice job supporting the package already on the users list, it really isn't ready for average-user consumption. The problem is, in fact, that the good support given for an alpha package led you to believe it is not alpha!
cheers,
- Leo
PS: don't worry too much about those deprecation warnings. The Component interface and friends are about as deprecated as java.util.Vector, but slightly less so. IOW: They'll be around.
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