> -----Original Message----- > From: Morten Haavaldsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 October 2004 00:24 > To: Avalon framework users > Subject: Avalon ... Metro ? > > Hi, > > regardless name, strange since I got the impression from the new look on > Avalon website that it was here to stay?
The urls and the rules of engagement are changing. The product, strategy, vision, and team are rock solid. By the middle of the week the svn will be available and within a few days we will be seeing the first working version of Metro (including a bunch of new features such as Avalon 4.2 components concurrently executing along side the next step in evolution - pure Metro components). > I think Java developers really need a server framework on which to build > servers. Absolutely - yes, but not limited to servers. After using the http facilities it is really great to be able to simple write a small http handler and have the entire build and deployment solution covered with only 12 lines of xml. And then runtime deployment via a single commandline and she's up and operation. > Everybody seems to think that it is all about EJB's , servlets etc... > We really need a good, open, server framwork which enables developers to > make servers...as simple as that. I you haven't already done so, take a walk though the tutorials and you'll start to get a glimpse at the notion of creating servers through component composition (and make sure you sign yourself up on the Metro mailing lists at the DPML). > So, > what is the URL Metro? There will be a post on the admin-dpml list with news as soon as things are in place. We are sorting administrative stuff like host name registrations etc. and expect a working base to be up and running this week. In the meantime if you want to stare at an "under construction" page don't hesitate to visit: http://www.dpml.net > I hope Metro gets more examples from the "developers" point of view. > I think Avalon is too much documented on how Avalon itself is made. Which > is good, but could perhaps be separated from the users perspective. > I.e the developers wanting to make a server. Following the announcement to establish Metro there a several people coming out of the woodwork expressing interests in development of the documentation and stuff like tutorials, training material, etc. Feel free to post thoughts on this subject to the dev or support list at dpml. > A good example would be a case where a server terminates a protocol(e.g. > HTTP, or pure socket based for that matter), analyzes the incoming > request/mesage etc. and dispatches it to some sort of handler. The > tutorial could then also show logging etc. > > > One important aspect often forgotten is to have an example on how to > instrument(e.g. JMX?) the solution as well... > > I am perhaps asking for too much here... > > Anyway, > Avalon looks promising, looking forward to Metro... Looking forward to seeing you over on the DPML. Cheers, Steve. > /Morten > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Avalon framework users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: Newbie merlin/http question (find out about SOAP) > > > > On Sunday 17 October 2004 23:07, Idris B Saliu wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the info, I have no problem parsing the XML, I just > would > > > like to know if the merlin container has an embedded servelet > container > > > that my SMS server can do a HTTP POST request too. > > > > The short answer is Yes; > > > > The longer answer is; > > We have taken the Jetty webserver and componentized it (without touching > its > > source code) into Avalon configurable components. That means that it is > > possible to assemble and configure just about any Jetty setup one can > > imagine, although your case sounds pretty straight forward. > > The BUT in this is two-fold; > > > > 1. The work is functional, but not complete. More standard assembled > blocks, > > more examples and moer documentation is needed. > > > > 2. You have entered Avalon in the 11th hour (and 59th minute, I might > add). > > Merlin is as we speak, being forked into the Metro platform. > > See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-users&m=109782850214921&w=2 > for > > details. > > > > The Http facility sits in planet/facilities/http, but can be a bit > > intimidating for new users. I am not sure how much support we are going > to > > provide in Avalon, since it looks like the Avalon project will be > dismantled > > completely. So, I my personal recommendation; > > > > a. Follow us to Metro, it will be fun. > > b. Have patience for a week or two, for us to get everything > operational. > > c. Enjoy a new community style and lots of fun over there. > > d. The Metro (Merlin) platform will not let you down. > > > > Cheers > > Niclas > > -- > > +------//-------------------+ > > / http://www.bali.ac / > > / http://niclas.hedhman.org / > > +------//-------------------+ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
